Do genuine masters really withhold their best techniques from their students? According to Grandmaster David Chin, they do. "The old traditional masters, they were so protective of themselves," comments Chin. "They made sure they could make a living. They didn't want the students to compete against them."
Today, few Americans live the type of lifestyle conducive to achieving true kung fu mastery, so keeping secrets is no longer as important as in days gone by. Quite the opposite, most contemporary masters are revealing all their secrets, in fear that if they don't, they may be the last of their breed. And no one wants their art to die with them.
He was a master of using the technique of cruelty." There are four principles for Hop Gar: cruelty, evasion, penetration and interception.
When asked about cruelty, Chin stoically quotes the Lama White Crane kung fu classics: "When hunting a tiger, destroy it. Otherwise, a wounded tiger will return to harm you.
When weeding a garden, pull up the roots. Otherwise, the weeds will grow back.
Whether the lion is hunting an elephant or a rabbit, the lion always uses full force."
Drake wrote:I understand what you're getting at. That's why, in the beginning, the style(s) originators were monks. Balance.
windwalker wrote:couple of points worth noting is the "no blocking" and "footwork" this coupled with the long arm makes the style very unique.
Some have commented about how CMA looks when used, and that fighting looks like fighting.
hop gar looks like how its practiced, there's not much change between usage and practice.
D_Glenn wrote:windwalker wrote:couple of points worth noting is the "no blocking" and "footwork" this coupled with the long arm makes the style very unique.
Some have commented about how CMA looks when used, and that fighting looks like fighting.
hop gar looks like how its practiced, there's not much change between usage and practice.
I don't know or practice hop gar so when he starts showing the stylized movements done against the other guy at full speed it just looks fighting. If I saw him kicking someone's ass on the street I wouldn't be able to identify his style of fighting.
Maybe some bystander who did hop gar for years could identify it..
windwalker wrote:D_Glenn wrote:windwalker wrote:couple of points worth noting is the "no blocking" and "footwork" this coupled with the long arm makes the style very unique.
Some have commented about how CMA looks when used, and that fighting looks like fighting.
hop gar looks like how its practiced, there's not much change between usage and practice.
I don't know or practice hop gar so when he starts showing the stylized movements done against the other guy at full speed it just looks fighting. If I saw him kicking someone's ass on the street I wouldn't be able to identify his style of fighting.
Maybe some bystander who did hop gar for years could identify it..
because one couldnt tell whose problem would it be?
It just gives lic. IMO to those who have not yet internalized what ever they do to say that they practice one way and it looks like something else.
If one can not recognize or understand trained tech vs un trained tech, whose problem would it be?
its not about looking like, it is about being and doing. a boxer does not look like a boxer boxing, he is and does. those watching him would know, if not what it was they would know that the person was quite skilled at what ever it was that they where doing.
what many seem to be saying is that what they practice has nothing to do with how it looks or used except when it comes to BJJ, Thia boxing, Boxing ect. then its quite clear the how, what and why.
Then the discussion for the most part is about how to improve or make it better, not about whether its fake or not, or how it looks or the many other things questioned by those say they practice "insert style" that they claim they never see used live.
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