Bao wrote:I know very little about Yiquan. I might read the text, thanks for the tip.
意拳正軌
THE CORRECT PATH OF YIQUAN
王薌齋 by Wang Xiangzhai [1929]
Bao wrote:Some questions comes into my mind. The two that bugs me are: Why doesn't "Ding Shi" seem to be part of any modern Tai Chi practice curriculum? Are there many other training methods who are either lost or kept secret?
What do you think about this?
oragami_itto wrote:This seems strange to me because I didn't realize there was any other way to train.
The way I learned the form we practiced as a group to music primarily. Each movement was broken down into 2,4 or 6 beats with a specific "transitional posture" on each beat. The 150 posture form as a whole is broken down into the classic three sections, but section two is broken into two parts, and section three is broken into three parts.
A regular part of class was to play one of the six parts to a metronome holding postures for a specific number of beats, either just the formal end posture or including the transitional postures. In my own practice now I'll do the whole form whichever way I have enough time for when the mood strikes.
Bao wrote:oragami_itto wrote:This seems strange to me because I didn't realize there was any other way to train.
My first five or ten years of tai chi I didn't know that this kind of practice existed. I know a lot of groups and schools, but none of them has ding shi as standard practice. There are standing postures, but not this stance practice that is made together with forms practice.The way I learned the form we practiced as a group to music primarily. Each movement was broken down into 2,4 or 6 beats with a specific "transitional posture" on each beat. The 150 posture form as a whole is broken down into the classic three sections, but section two is broken into two parts, and section three is broken into three parts.
A regular part of class was to play one of the six parts to a metronome holding postures for a specific number of beats, either just the formal end posture or including the transitional postures. In my own practice now I'll do the whole form whichever way I have enough time for when the mood strikes.
Sounds fantastic. I've heard that music was a part of earlier tai chi practice and that they even had special instruments for just tai chi, wooden sticks they struck together to make a tone. I have never met anyone who kept this or any similar tradition. Using metronome sounds amazing, like a progression from this old method.
This reminds me about zen bells and sticks they strike together when they meditate. I wonder if these traditions have a connection and in that case how.
From what style and lineage does your tai chi come from?
Bao wrote:Thank you for the explanation.
Ron Panunto wrote:Hi Origami,
I learned Taiji cane, saber, and tassle sword from Ray Hayward and some Bagua. He is a great teacher.
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