grzegorz wrote:Right, thanks for sharing. I wasn't commenting on you as much as this is like an interview with Congolese Rice defending all things Bush (sp).
My comment is that this is what Lavrov does for a living.
Supposedly the FBI has definite proof that it was the Russians but if show us the evidence they would have to reveal that evidence. I imagine in years to come we'll find out more.
sounds about right
In 2005, an internal National Security Agency historical study was declassified; it concluded that Maddox had engaged the North Vietnamese Navy on August 2, but that there were no North Vietnamese naval vessels present during the incident of August 4.
The report stated regarding the first incident on August 2 that "at 1500G,[note 1] Captain Herrick ordered Ogier's gun crews to open fire if the boats approached within ten thousand yards. At about 1505G,[note 1] Maddox fired three rounds to warn off the communist boats. This initial action was never reported by the Johnson administration, which insisted that the Vietnamese boats fired first."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident