Interloper wrote:It's not fake, but you are right that it has nothing to do with fighting. Although, the mechanics used to create this effect can be applied to fighting, and you have to train in a very specific way to achieve this.
windwalker wrote:Interloper wrote:It's not fake, but you are right that it has nothing to do with fighting. Although, the mechanics used to create this effect can be applied to fighting, and you have to train in a very specific way to achieve this.
considering some of the other threads.
How do you "know" it's not fake...
Interloper wrote:windwalker wrote:Interloper wrote:It's not fake, but you are right that it has nothing to do with fighting. Although, the mechanics used to create this effect can be applied to fighting, and you have to train in a very specific way to achieve this.
considering some of the other threads.
How do you "know" it's not fake...
Well, for one thing, I know the mechanics of what he is doing, can explain them (and have already done so in another thread), and can do them myself. And I know I am not fake.
Interloper wrote:Well, for one thing, I know the mechanics of what he is doing, can explain them (and have already done so in another thread), and can do them myself. And I know I am not fake.
As for fake/real discussion, I don't want to waste my time on it, but I'll say this – in this instance, it is real. That said, it is also "conditioned" in a sense that uke/nage is a teaching model where nage learns to use aiki and develop soft control, so uke doesn't do anything to stop it, he is in fact allowing it to happen, but the forces enacted on uke are (or should be) existent.
Whether you go beyond this model into actual fight training, is up to you, and most JMA, unfortunately, do not. If you do, however, it will not look like this simply because the opponent will be allowed to change, counter, evade etc, but the same forces you are developing with the above will be there.
the same forces you are developing with the above will be there
Bao wrote:Fake? How? I wouldn't lable it as "fake". That would be a bit offensive as it would diminish all years of there hard work. I see a guy throwing himself, somewhat assisted by another person. How could you fake it? In what way. CGI?Interloper wrote:Well, for one thing, I know the mechanics of what he is doing, can explain them (and have already done so in another thread), and can do them myself. And I know I am not fake.
But let's be fair. When two aikidokas play together, it's and it always be, as we see here, a cooporative drill. Or at least it will become a semi-cooperative drill. You have learned to throw yourself pretty and know how to fall a certain way. If you are prepared to be thrown, jump around and in advanced, you have prepared yourself mentally and physically for that, yes you are going to be thrown. If it was not two aikidokas playing together here it would just not look as pretty, it would be different. It's just that simple. Fake? No. Cooperative? Yes. Learned response? Yes.
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