willie wrote:I was the one who said that and i'm not your bitch jack...
Stay classy.
willie wrote:I was the one who said that and i'm not your bitch jack...
Josealb wrote:willie wrote:I was the one who said that and i'm not your bitch jack...
Stay classy.
Dmitri wrote:Standing up, an average BJJ blue belt wouldn't last 20 seconds against someone like WHJ.
But on the ground (i.e. if they're not allowed to stand up), it would be a very different story. Would have to be a very good blue (or higher) belt, but he'd probably submit the guy eventually.
Something that seems to be a fundamental flaw in the logic of some CIMA guys is that their internal development and principles will carry across all ranges of combat (without much if any experience in other ranges) to equalize them with people who specialize in those ranges without the need to train techniques specific to those ranges.
Shifu Park Chil Sung was born in 1930 in what is now North Korea. He first began studying gong fu within his family at a very young age (around 7 or 8 years old). He later traveled around the Korean peninsula studying under any master he could find. At that time he met his main master, shifu Lin Ping Jiang.
During the Korean war he along with most other young men from his home town were recruited to fight for the south as gorilla fighters not actually associated with the formal army. After the war he was able to relocate to the south and has not seen his family since then.
Shifu Park Chil Sung worked for some time after the war for the South Korean equivalent of the American CIA, training in hand to hand combat.
He has been teaching at Camp Casey Tongdushon (a U.S. Army post just south of the DMZ - north of Seoul) since the 70's, with many of his students being U.S. Military personnel. In the year 2000 he was still alive and teaching in Korea.
Dmitri wrote:Standing up, an average BJJ blue belt wouldn't last 20 seconds against someone like WHJ.
But on the ground (i.e. if they're not allowed to stand up), it would be a very different story. Would have to be a very good blue (or higher) belt, but he'd probably submit the guy eventually.
I feel like you're just hanging on the word "combat" to avoid my point, which is that if your experience is standup, it does not translate into ability to defeat an experienced grappler on the ground.
GrahamB wrote:Dmitri wrote:Standing up, an average BJJ blue belt wouldn't last 20 seconds against someone like WHJ.
But on the ground (i.e. if they're not allowed to stand up), it would be a very different story. Would have to be a very good blue (or higher) belt, but he'd probably submit the guy eventually.
Pppft! Royce would choke them both out.
willie wrote:Fa Xing wrote: We were discussing how to have that shocking power in Xingyi and he hit me ever so slightly in the chest and I felt my bones rattle.
Look, Tim is an open guy who will always be willing to meet. I know that people have taken private sessions with him just to spar. If you want it first hand, be a big boy and contact him, get it for yourself. But don't be a little bitch and say that Tim (or anyone else for that matter) "wouldn't be able to do that me, har har." If you say that, then we know for sure that you have no idea what you're talking about, clear and simple.
I was the one who said that and i'm not your bitch jack...
I never said that in a way which was meant to be condescending to Tim at all. I even stated that, he would most likely agree with me and say that a lot would
not work on higher level guys. So please stop embarrassing yourself...
Oh and just so you know, i didn't leave that first line there for nothing.
Josealb wrote:Whats a gorilla fighter?
Dmitri wrote:Standing up, an average BJJ blue belt wouldn't last 20 seconds against someone like WHJ.
But on the ground (i.e. if they're not allowed to stand up), it would be a very different story. Would have to be a very good blue (or higher) belt, but he'd probably submit the guy eventually.
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