Everything that need to be said had been said. There is no need to repeat the same thing over and over again (such as "push"). No matter how nice party that RSF (and Empty Flower) may have, soon or later that party will end and people will leave.
johnwang wrote:Can you consider yourself "fit" if you can't
- run 5 miles with good speed,
- carry weight with your arm and on your shoulder?
Running for health and fitness is actually a relatively new and Western concept that did not exist in ancient China. In fact, most doctors of traditional Chinese medicine would advise against running long distances or at fast speed, especially for people who don't have enough qi and blood due to poor genetics, illness, or old age.
As far as power goes, if a CMA/IMAist MUST rely on superior muscular strength in order to make his art work on an opponent, chances are he's not practicing it correctly.
johnwang wrote:Everything that need to be said had been said. There is no need to repeat the same thing over and over again (such as "push").
In Yangtze river, the back wave will push the front wave. The front wave will crash into the river bank. That's the way history will always repeat.
C.J.W. wrote:johnwang wrote:Can you consider yourself "fit" if you can't
- run 5 miles with good speed,
- carry weight with your arm and on your shoulder?
Running for health and fitness is actually a relatively new and Western concept that did not exist in ancient China. In fact, most doctors of traditional Chinese medicine would advise against running long distances or at fast speed, especially for people who don't have enough qi and blood due to poor genetics, illness, or old age.
As far as power goes, if a CMA/IMAist MUST rely on superior muscular strength in order to make his art work on an opponent, chances are he's not practicing it correctly.
snafu wrote:Just my 2c from BJJ experience:
In a fight, if you are unconditioned, you will gas out, and when you get gas out, you will slow down, get distracted, and react too little too late, and you will get destroyed.
Applying IMA skills will prevent you from gasing out as quickly because you won't be pushing and pulling on people like a meathead..
Bao wrote: Damn, I've met so many "fit" people saying that they are exhausted after a few minutes in a round of a competition match. And here we practice sparring or free push hands for hours without getting exhausted. Tai Chi and Bagua people can practice full speed fighting for a very long time without getting too tired.
Patrick wrote:
Sure, there are slight differences. But this does not really negate my point. The most important point is that "fitness" of an IMA practitioner cannot be something completely different than that of a MMA athlete or of a tennis player. Fitness is fitness. There will be naturally differences in the distribution, e.g. one may have better active kicking flexibility (Taekwondo) or another better grip strength (Judo). The training for fitness is on a foundation level the same.
Does your "sport" require your postural stability to adapt rapidly to outer disturbances? (e.g. Pushing Hands) Use reactive stability training methods.
Which attribute is needed in your sport? Choose best method to enhance it.
daniel pfister wrote:Bao wrote: Damn, I've met so many "fit" people saying that they are exhausted after a few minutes in a round of a competition match. And here we practice sparring or free push hands for hours without getting exhausted. Tai Chi and Bagua people can practice full speed fighting for a very long time without getting too tired.
There's an interesting "fitness" distinction to be made there. Should one be training for the endurance capacity to be able to push hands for hours and hours or training to increase their power output to be able to blast people away decisively a few times? Probably we want some combination of both and people need to find their own balance for what it is they're trying to achieve. I don't think its possible to have one training method that will effect both measures of fitness equally, however.
snafu wrote:
You can't just charge your way in like a bull, even if you want to be decisive. You have to wait for opportunities, even if you are working proactively for setups. That takes time, during which pacing is required.
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