In martial arts it is key? In sports fitness it is vital. In urban self defense not as much but it does not hurt to have more of it.
Why in sports vs urban self defense? Because most real fights dont tend to last long. People pour everything into it when they believe they are in real danger. Oxygen burns quickly and systems go into overload. It's been proven that peoples perception of time slows down. Here it's about being aware of how to remove the danger and end the threat quickly. This relies heavily on applying the right tactics/moves at the right time.
dspyrido wrote:Who would not want to be a little more fitter? By its very definition it is about having more of a good characteristic regardless of whether it relates to physical (run, mobility, lift weight, ...), mental (memory, problem solving, ...) or emotional (calm, energetic, in tune with others, ...). If not, why?
middleway wrote:Linked to this is our ability to deal with or utilize Adrenalin and Cortisol. Fitter guys with endocrine systems that are used to being mildly and deliberately 'stressed', are better equipped to utilize and also flush these hormones in an efficient way. There is a lot more to 'fight fitness' than simply strength or endurance. Hormones are one of the Keys in stressful environments that very few people talk about.
gerard wrote:grzegorz wrote:I work a ton and I don't have a lot of time right now to attend regular group sessions so I mostly do a boxing/kettlebell routine these days. It occurs to me that it is not enough for competitions or anything but that dealing with an athlete in a fight can't be good. Almost to the point where I am becoming convinced that this is the edge that top fighters have. Obviously skills are skills but without fitness then forget about it.
Why don't you ask here.
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No wonder why these arts are degrading so fast...and furiously.
grzegorz wrote:I disagree, because personally I think most famous Chinese martial artists came from a farming or working class background and were therefore already physically strong when started training. Now whether their children or students were physically strong is hard to say but I am sure in a lot of challenge matches the same person who won was probably the same person who was better at working in the fields.
I'd like to add that if you understand the principles and body method of the art you practice, it is possible to turn everyday activities into style-specific training drills that can improve your skills as well as fitness.
C.J.W. wrote:grzegorz wrote:I disagree, because personally I think most famous Chinese martial artists came from a farming or working class background and were therefore already physically strong when started training. Now whether their children or students were physically strong is hard to say but I am sure in a lot of challenge matches the same person who won was probably the same person who was better at working in the fields.
I would argue that the type of body and strength that one acquires through performing hard manual labor in the typical manners is NOT always beneficial to the development of CMA, especially IMA, skills. In many cases, they may actually be counterproductive.
C.J.W. wrote:grzegorz wrote:I disagree, because personally I think most famous Chinese martial artists came from a farming or working class background and were therefore already physically strong when started training. Now whether their children or students were physically strong is hard to say but I am sure in a lot of challenge matches the same person who won was probably the same person who was better at working in the fields.
I would argue that the type of body and strength that one acquires through performing hard manual labor in the typical manners is NOT always beneficial to the development of CMA, especially IMA, skills. In many cases, they may actually be counterproductive.
grzegorz wrote:C.J.W. wrote:grzegorz wrote:I disagree, because personally I think most famous Chinese martial artists came from a farming or working class background and were therefore already physically strong when started training. Now whether their children or students were physically strong is hard to say but I am sure in a lot of challenge matches the same person who won was probably the same person who was better at working in the fields.
I would argue that the type of body and strength that one acquires through performing hard manual labor in the typical manners is NOT always beneficial to the development of CMA, especially IMA, skills. In many cases, they may actually be counterproductive.
I don't agree. Just as fighting can be done without relying on tension manual labor is the same.
I move hundred pound boxes without relying on muscular tension and from using what I learned from IMAs and judo.
One thing is for sure the people who developed IMAs were not living the same life style we are living today so I am sure they were using their bodies much more than we do in the West today.
C.J.W. wrote:I'd like to add that if you understand the principles and body method of the art you practice, it is possible to turn everyday activities into style-specific training drills that can improve your skills as well as fitness.
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