C.J.W. wrote:marvin8 wrote: Shadowboxing is not as effective in building power as any type of resistance training. Pull ups and push ups develop back and chest muscles, used in punching. Dips can be used to develop triceps.
Boxing and IMA believe punching power does not rely on muscles, alone. The emphasis is more on delivering power with whole body coordination. As johnwang stated, the heavy bag will give you feedback (e.g., feel, sound) to test structure and alignment. The heavy bag simulates a contact with a person, more than hitting thin air.
I'm afraid you are mixing apples with oranges here again, my friend.
All these boxing references and talk about pull ups, push ups, and dips clearly show that you have missed the boat when it comes to IMA training, especially if you are hinting that boxers and IMAists punch and produce power the same way.
Please, take my advice and go meet some good IMA teachers before you talk about the things that you think you know what you are talking about.
No. There
you go, again. I am hoping not to have to fill my post with disclaimers, everytime. However, it seems with some people, I have to go back to my post, repeat and put disclaimers in, to clarify. I'll do it if I have to, but rather not have to. Because, it gets away from the topic of discussion.
Here's my disclaimer. Boxing and western fighters do tend to do pull ups and dips. I am not speaking of IMA. I am not saying IMA does pull ups and dips. I am only speaking of western fighters, when speaking of pull ups and dips.
It was already discussed how boxing generates power in your post,
The ideal physique: East vs. West viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25549. Yes, boxing and IMA both use whole body power. In short, boxing uses kinetic linking and IMA uses internal power (e.g., dantien, etc.). I agree to disagree.
Also,
baseball uses their whole body to generate power. Disclaimer: I am not saying baseball player are doing tai chi. It's just a fact that they use their whole body.
Many sports uses whole body power. However, there are differences in terminology and training methods.
So, all of the above had nothing to do with heavy bag combinations. I just had to go back and put in disclaimers in my post. I hope this helps in your understanding that I realize there are differences in what tai chi does. I have left these disclaimers in most of my posts. So, I don't understand the confusion.
Why not start another thread on the differences between IMA and EMA (which I already agree there are)? You seem to be very passionate about the subject. In the meantime, any input on heavy bag combinations?