In this guy's case I was told that he actually trained for the match buy some boxing coach, which I felt was a big mistake
middleway wrote:In this guy's case I was told that he actually trained for the match buy some boxing coach, which I felt was a big mistake
Briliant, so a self proclaimed Taiji guys looses badly in about 10 seconds ... and his boxing coach is to blame. hahahah
CMA. Has never done well in a ring. BTDT In back in the 70s. He lost, your point is.
A long time ago, JW suggested that the reason Chinese did not elaborate upon ground fighting was that each practically minded Chinese had a knife or two, on or about his person. John pointed at a long fist form move that makes little sense unless it is to draw a dagger from your shoe.
I am not a good groundie myself, a little folk style in high school, a little JJJ (which am preferring flinging honorable another person through air if you please). But I think my point is sound here. It would be sad and awkward for me if I wrapped someone up in a hold on the ground and he proceeded to carve his way out.
So wrestling and ground and pound must be viewed in terms of sport combat, for that is where they belong. You cannot depend on an agreeable summation like that shown. In America, that would get you shot.
middleway wrote:A long time ago, JW suggested that the reason Chinese did not elaborate upon ground fighting was that each practically minded Chinese had a knife or two, on or about his person. John pointed at a long fist form move that makes little sense unless it is to draw a dagger from your shoe.
I am not a good groundie myself, a little folk style in high school, a little JJJ (which am preferring flinging honorable another person through air if you please). But I think my point is sound here. It would be sad and awkward for me if I wrapped someone up in a hold on the ground and he proceeded to carve his way out.
So wrestling and ground and pound must be viewed in terms of sport combat, for that is where they belong. You cannot depend on an agreeable summation like that shown. In America, that would get you shot.
What a random and completely out of context post!? Did you watch the encounter... the ground bit was not the problem.
This forum is a very strange place recently... someone cannot defend themselves against basic stand up punches and the reponses are basically "its boxings fault" and "ground fighting isnt clever when you think about knives" lol.
We both watched it. You, however, did not see it.
If you operate without fear of going to the ground, you can always get there.
Start there, and explain.
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