C.J.W. wrote:IMO, the Taiji guy has most certainly "embellished" his resume; judging by his performance during the fight, there's no f****ing way that he has had any substantial amount of training in Sanda, Taekwondo, and Muay Thai like he claimed.
What would you attribute the success of this teacher to reach this point.
and yet everyone knows people who can make what they do work.
How many 'teachers' are regularly testing themselves with anyone but their own adoring disciples? not many ... and there in lies the biggest problem.
"Cus had a brief career as an amateur boxer, boxing as a featherweight and lightweight, but was unable to get a professional license because of an eye injury he had suffered in a street fight.[4]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cus_D%27Amato
RobP3 wrote:Maybe, just maybe, when it comes to fisticuffs, boxing is better overall than tai chi?
windwalker wrote:How many 'teachers' are regularly testing themselves with anyone but their own adoring disciples? not many ... and there in lies the biggest problem.
"adoring disciples" very cliche.
I would say the biggest problem is that many do not understand the difference between a coach,
who knows and understand about how to develop an ability, and those who feel that the coach needs to
step up to prove his own ability. For some teachers they too may be confused as to the difference.
His students probably feel that they get what ever it is that they'er seeking
its up to them to test and verify it.....
Fighters do not always make the best coaches, the best coaches are not necessarily the best at what they do or did
but they get proven results.
"Cus" D'Amato comes to mind.....for those seeking to be boxers, he was the go to guy in his day....he did box a little"Cus had a brief career as an amateur boxer, boxing as a featherweight and lightweight, but was unable to get a professional license because of an eye injury he had suffered in a street fight.[4]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cus_D%27Amato
Strange wrote:http://www.wenxuecity.com/news/2017/04/30/6205777.html
Interview with Lei after the match
personally, i think he is talking cock
Guan Nan Wang, 4 hrs ago wrote:Latest update on the Xu Xiaodong's quest to expose fraud in CMA community in China
Yesterday one of the 4 leaders of Chen village, Chen Zhenglei has made an official statement, claiming that Chen style may have been used for combat at some point in history on the battlefield, (which is complete nonsense but that require a different post to clear up), but now the Chen village isn't about fighting anymore, its about promoting health and a way of life.
He urges all members of the Chen village to ignore Xu's challenge and taunting, as that will just give him more recognition. And he has personally contacted the Chinese Wushu Federation, asking them to put an end to this madness.
Alright, what to take away from this is that the Chen village are scare of Xu, they are scared to fight Xu without their hired guns, and they got enough money and connection to play a political game with Xu, reaching high up into authority in order to bring up some ban on Xu.
Sadly the quest of Xu which we all now know and love, might be killed prematurely by this coward. Part of the old martial tradition was about protecting the face and honor of your style, when ppl talk trash abt it you answer with your fist, but instead now they are all business ppl and thus they answer with money and human resource, this is really a disgrace to the CMA community, and even if they win, the CMA community has lost this fight against Xu.
This is also the very definition of a hypocrite, when the money is good then Chen style is the only combat Taichi still functioning, that is what they have been promoting for all these years, in shows such as Experience real kungfu, Chen village vs Muay thai, Chen village vs Karate, Chen Xiaowang vs strongman, Wang Zhanhai vs strongman, vs judo, vs all kind of stuff. Which were all paid stunts to make themselves look good and pretending to be martial, but soon as a challenger come at the door, then nope they are not about fighting? That is way too cheap and faceless for my taste.
Below is first a link to the official announcement by CZL in Chinese, then a couple of videos where they actively promoted their "martial" power.
http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/W1QOXyS6q9E_gswA3_pzsA
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlhH0PAsaZI
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp89JK-uH0k
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CmS2nSm5n2Q
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qEv7I4jSADI
陈正雷回国后终于发声了
陈正雷称,他刚从国外回来,会给陈家沟的年轻人做工作(不理会徐晓冬的叫战),因为应战反而是在抬高对方(徐晓冬)。
MP.WEIXIN.QQ.COM
http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/W1QOXyS6q9E_gswA3_pzsA
Guan Nan Wang, April 30 at 12:29 pm wrote:Alright, new development today, Xu did a live stream talk discussing his thought on the Wang Zhanjun fight, I've included the video below, but its in Chinese for those who can understand, else you can read my rough translation.
Yesterday Wang Zhanjun decided to send his top "disciple" Han Feilong to fight Xu, and the disciple part is in "" because this guy isn't really trained by Wang himself, but by sanda coach hired by Wang.
Xu made a live stream today replying to Wang's decision, he basically said that his doubt is with whether or not Chen village Taichi can fight, he never doubted whether or not Sanda can fight, so sending this Han who is a professional sanda athlete, does not prove anything against the argument at hand.
Xu can agree to fight Wang's student, but then to be fair Wang must fight Xu's student which is young professional athlete also. If Wang is too scared to fight Xu's student, then Wang should come and fight Xu himself, if he send only his sanda athlete, Xu will also send forth his own sanda or mma athlete.
If Wang agrees to fight Xu himself, then Xu will fight Wang Zhanjun and Wang Zhanhai one after another, each 10 min round no break, no rules, eyes, groin all game, and Xu wont even wear groin guard to be fair. If Xu loses then Xu will knee down and apologize to Wang, if Wang loses then Xu doesn't need him to do anything extra.
Xu also said there is nothing wrong with Chen village teaching Sanda, but everyone with a brain knows that is not why Chen village is famous, ppl don pay a fortune to go there and learn Sanda, they go there to learn "magic", Chen village is actively promoting this "magic" idea, but when put to the test they reply on Sanda, this in itself is fraud.
Just as a side note, the starting price for a Baishi ceremony under any of the Chen 4 warriors is around 200k RMB, I'm pretty sure nobody pays that amount of money so they can learn average Sanda. Now you can understand why Xu got a problem with the whole Chen village setup.
And after the Xu vs Wei Lei fight, tons of ppl criticize Xu for bullying a older person, but the fact is Wei Lei is only 4 years older than Xu, Wei at 41 and Xu at 37, neither one of them is in their prime as far as age goes. Now the funny thing is while ppl are criticizing Xu for that, this Han Feilong that Wang sent is only 21 years old, now you see the irony?
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http://www.365yg.com/item/6414779062585 ... 4254451905
Pavel Macek wrote:So much for "useless external strength", "just (kick)boxing", and other nonsense. Hopefully another wake-up call for CMA.
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