starting price for a Baishi ceremony under any of the Chen 4 warriors is around 200k RMB
marvin8 wrote:Chen Zhenglei of Chen village trying to end the fun.
C.J.W. wrote:marvin8 wrote:Chen Zhenglei of Chen village trying to end the fun.
Chen is smart by ordering the boys to back away. He is thinking with a clear head and like a shrewd businessman.
If the second-generation big names like Wang Xian's two sons and Chen Xiaowang's nephew Chen Zhiqiang end up in the ring with the MMA guy and get their butts kicked, they might lose a lot more than just their reputation and face, especially the thousands of prospective and current Taiji students at their schools.
C.J.W. wrote:marvin8 wrote:Chen Zhenglei of Chen village trying to end the fun.
Chen is smart by ordering the boys to back away. He is thinking with a clear head and like a shrewd businessman.
If the second-generation big names like Wang Xian's two sons and Chen Xiaowang's nephew Chen Zhiqiang end up in the ring with the MMA guy and get their butts kicked, they might lose a lot more than just their reputation and face, especially the thousands of prospective and current Taiji students at their schools.
marvin8 wrote:C.J.W. wrote:marvin8 wrote:Chen Zhenglei of Chen village trying to end the fun.
Chen is smart by ordering the boys to back away. He is thinking with a clear head and like a shrewd businessman.
If the second-generation big names like Wang Xian's two sons and Chen Xiaowang's nephew Chen Zhiqiang end up in the ring with the MMA guy and get their butts kicked, they might lose a lot more than just their reputation and face, especially the thousands of prospective and current Taiji students at their schools.
My wish is to see a CMA/IMA beat Xu Xiaodong. Then, we can analyze the video and see what CMA techniques, strategies, etc. are different and effective, if any.
I sometimes post actual competition/fight videos and point out similarities in MMA vs CMA waiting for someone to say, "No" and explain the differences (e.g., trapping, stick, adhere, peng, etc.), not to debate. However, the threads never really get that far (e. g., CMA fighting principles, strategies, CMA fight videos). But, that’s just my interest. Others enjoy discussing other aspects of CMA.
windwalker wrote:Why wish for others to do something that you can do yourself. You can fulfill your own wish, live your own dream. Understand your own training be your own hero.
Chen Zhenglei has made an official statement, claiming that Chen style may have been used for combat at some point in history on the battlefield, (which is complete nonsense but that require a different post to clear up), but now the Chen village isn't about fighting anymore, its about promoting health and a way of life.
middleway wrote:With a statement of Chen Villages disinterest in the fighting utility of the art, where does that leave those who are training it for that purpose? Pretty much the top man just told you that the art isnt about that anymore and thats history ...
marvin8 wrote:windwalker wrote:Why wish for others to do something that you can do yourself. You can fulfill your own wish, live your own dream. Understand your own training be your own hero.
No, I can't do that. Because, I don't live in China, not a fight promoter in China, have a gym there with streaming capability and have the social media presence in China, that Xu Xiaodong does.
Why do people watch fights (e.g., pay per view, stadium, etc.) and trainers analyze film of great fighters? One reason is to learn from history. Although, Xu Xiaodong doesn’t appear to be that high level of a fighter. Maybe someone will come along and use their tai chi fighting skills to defeat him. It may be a chance to learn something.
I do not wish to be a “hero.” That's not an interest in my training, I share. That sounds more like “dreaming” of a kung fu story; living in your own head and not facing the reality of fighting.
. I always say 'Whatever you do, I don't want. Whatever I do and you don't know - that's how we win.'"
david chin
living in your own head and not facing the reality of fighting.
Kettlebells4U wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KUXTC8g_pk
Just found this video and wanted to share.
I think this is a perfect example of how every traditional martial artist should crosstrain (at least in the beginning, later some more juice should be added).
I love the humble attitude of both guys, the Aikido guy is totally open and realistic and the mma guy does his best to help the other grow without making the Aikido guy lose face.
Their philosophy is to compete while they are young, and save the solo form for later years. They have also been "tested" by many other groups in the park, as well as by many visitors from different counties with different forms of martial arts. One year, a member of Gracie’s family from Brazil visited the park. Respect was exchanged between the two parties and the agreement on the rules were made. After three short rounds of free style pushing, Gracie went home with dirt on his back.
Humble guests are always welcome... Pride filled martial artists will return home humbled and dirty.
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