Their philosophy is to compete while they are young, and save the solo form for later years. They have also been "tested" by many other groups in the park, as well as by many visitors from different counties with different forms of martial arts. One year, a member of Gracie’s family from Brazil visited the park. Respect was exchanged between the two parties and the agreement on the rules were made. After three short rounds of free style pushing, Gracie went home with dirt on his back.
Windwalker. Why do you believe this happened and what evidence do you have that it did? 'Gracies' are beaten regularly, i have no problem with that idea, i just wonder why you accept this account.
I always wonder why no one mentions these arts in having to learn how to up their game,
do they need to?
I doubt that those in these arts believe they have to up their game, just like this Tai chi guy didnt and doesnt think he needs too.
The problem that we face is that everything you write or post as 'evidence', is heresay or rumour. It is the account of someone who was there or saw something. You seem to place great faith in the honesty of these claims and in stories passed down, but dismiss videos like the one on this thread. The world has moved on, eye witness testimony is proven to be largely useless and evidence is easier to provide. So stories about a 'Gracie' getting their ass handed too them in this way remain just stories and irrelevant. There are better examples of Gracies getting beaten up by the likes of Sakuraba, the reason they are better examples is that we have a videos of the encounters.
You know the first thing I do when I'm looking for milk?
I don't go to stores that advertise that they don't sell milk.
Exactely.
cheers.