wayne hansen wrote:cloudz wrote:Great demo (which is also how you would train them) of TCMA techniques here. No theatrics necessary.
The shortcoming in this clip is the passive student
He never attacks or defends
The teacher circles and then takes his time to set up the Chinna and then applies it with force
Any person with no training can do theses throws with little instruction once the hold is setup
Fatal Rose wrote:Now this isn't perfect but at least it's something.
And what does this have to do with fake chi blasting nonsense?
Fatal Rose wrote:Why is chi blasting even open for discussion? It's proven fake garbage!
https://youtu.be/dOOh2J1b3lQ
wayne hansen wrote:I only have a couple of students these days and they are not into being filmed
There is some stuff of me to be released after I check out
Tom wrote:RobP3 wrote:[snip]Or at least in a demo I try and get the crowd involved in doing some exercises or something.You can't show "real fight" stuff, people either don't see what's going on or think you are a bully lol. People for the most part want to see some flashy entertainment
Oh yeah, there's nothing more flashy and exciting than watching slow press-ups and squats with heavy breathing.
windwalker wrote:Fatal Rose wrote:Now this isn't perfect but at least it's something.
And what does this have to do with fake chi blasting nonsense?
Because the same things could be and have been said of CMA, that its fake and never worked
there's a whole thread on it here it case you haven't noticed.
as to your example
let me help you with some training of styles I've worked with in the past.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA5-Q6wALTg
One can see clear distinct stylistic movement and usage according to
the style.
note: it looks like chen style, do not practice Chen style others might comment on this,
covers many of the points that people bring out regarding cooperative or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs_kdGe8Ljc
Tom wrote:Franklin wrote:but who does push hands with an 80 year old and sends him back 12 feet and into the dirt?
I do, apparently . . .
Sorry I missed your question earlier, Franklin. WW was there, and his follow-up post provided the context. As I mentioned before, I wanted to try to gauge Zhang's internal connection and coordination. I wasn't particularly interested in the lin kong jin, but I like grappling, because I can sense certain things about the person I'm working with. So Zhang let me try different entries to set-ups for throws, slowly and very gradually increasing the pressure to reach the point of off-balancing (kuzushi in judo, not sure if shuai jiao has a similar term). He was very good, making quick and smooth and very subtle adaptations to changing vectors. We had a lot of fun and were both laughing, and then moved into a few minutes of light-contact free-form tuishou. One of Zhang's qualities that impressed me the most was his ability to make his arms feel like they had his whole bodyweight in them, something I've felt in some good grapplers and in the CMA world from Chen Xiang (a bajiquan adept as well as a taijiquan disciple of the late Feng Zhiqiang). In tuishou Zhang could deflect and slip past my arms, or simply do his heavy-arm thing to off-balance me. I reached a point where I stopped mentally trying to set up a sequence of moves and counters, and just got into feeling the flow. So I think I was more surprised than Zhang when I found my hands on his chest, and took a small step in with a very light push. He moved back and seemed to trip, stumbling back two or three steps further before sitting down into the dirt, rolling onto his lower back then getting up with a grin. I rushed over to help dust him off and he indicated that he was willing to do more. But I already felt I'd taken up more than my share of Zhang's time so I declined. I was very impressed with Zhang's level of gongfu and resilience (I fervently wished for some of that kind of resilience a few days later after some rough-and-tumble play with some Russians outside of a bellydancing bar in Chaoyang).
I guess if I hadn't been as surprised as I was making contact with Zhang's torso I might have been able to reach out to keep him from stumbling back. But the point of the anecdote was to underscore the resilience imparted by Zhang's level of gongfu to the vicissitudes of physical being, whether at the hands of a clumsy laowai or slipping in the shower.
Tom wrote:Among the 8-10 students watching there was a police officer my size with some nice Chen taiji qinna skill and a 6-foot 7-inch PLA soldier. Zhang was well cared for.
Tom wrote:I wasn't particularly interested in the lin kong jin, but I like grappling, because I can sense certain things about the person I'm working with.
dspyrido wrote:Tom wrote:I wasn't particularly interested in the lin kong jin, but I like grappling, because I can sense certain things about the person I'm working with.
This and many other threads are all about LKJ with WW being the most emphatic supporter of them. Ww has signed off more than once with - come to China you & need to feel it.
So you did.
You get half way around the world, meet with the master and decide the that it is not particularly interesting?
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