wayne hansen wrote:Who says you only practice slow
Plenty of CMC people have fought full contact
In Malaysia they took on all comers
Just because all things are not shown in public does not mean they are not practiced in private
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wayne hansen wrote:Who says you only practice slow
Plenty of CMC people have fought full contact
In Malaysia they took on all comers
Just because all things are not shown in public does not mean they are not practiced in private
C.J.W. wrote:Interesting how CMC stylists in Malaysia were so combat oriented. But is it possible that they were the ones who took the art to that direction rather than CMC himself?
My grandfather and uncle trained taiji under two of CMC's direct disciples back in the late 60s and early 70s in Taipei, and free-fighting was never part of the curriculum.
When I spoke to Huang Hsinghsian about his experiences training with Grandmaster he said that the old gentleman did not like his students using his name when they started teaching. But why was this I ask myself. Was it because so many of his students mixed in their own ideas with what the Grandmaster had taught them? Was it that none of them had really come up to his standard?
"If you are really researching Grandmaster's art then your appreciation will reflect your own level of skill. Someone who is a taiji primary school student will see primary school standard, secondary school student will see secondary school level, a university student will see university level and so on. The more you learn the deeper the art gets. "
If you are really researching Grandmaster's art then your appreciation will reflect your own level of skill.
But I will say this though: CMC was never known as a fighter, and there were many who questioned his fighting skills. However, due to his close ties with Chiang Kaishek, being Mrs. Chiang's art teacher, no one dared to challenge him or make him lose face.
C.J.W. wrote:no one dared to challenge him or make him lose face.
C.J.W. wrote:The teachers they trained under were Gan Xiaozhou and Wu Guozhong, both were well-known disciples of CMC here in Taiwan. Never met them in person, so I can't really tell you how they were in terms of skill levels.
But I will say this though: CMC was never known as a fighter, and there were many who questioned his fighting skills. However, due to his close ties with Chiang Kaishek, being Mrs. Chiang's art teacher, no one dared to challenge him or make him lose face.
johnwang wrote:C.J.W. wrote:no one dared to challenge him or make him lose face.
That's not true. The Zimen master Xiong Jian-Shun did. One day Xiong was sick. Xiong's friend brought CMC to see Xiong. CMC suggested Xiong should train Taiji for health. That made Xiong mad big time.
taiwandeutscher wrote:C.J.W. wrote:The teachers they trained under were Gan Xiaozhou and Wu Guozhong, both were well-known disciples of CMC here in Taiwan. Never met them in person, so I can't really tell you how they were in terms of skill levels.
But I will say this though: CMC was never known as a fighter, and there were many who questioned his fighting skills. However, due to his close ties with Chiang Kaishek, being Mrs. Chiang's art teacher, no one dared to challenge him or make him lose face.
Hm, I was told thru different channels, that Xiong Yanghe and Wang Zihe both did show him the ground, no?
windwalker wrote:But I will say this though: CMC was never known as a fighter, and there were many who questioned his fighting skills. However, due to his close ties with Chiang Kaishek, being Mrs. Chiang's art teacher, no one dared to challenge him or make him lose face.
Why is this important to bring up, does it speak to his skill or lack of.
You say you never met the other teachers in person and yet feel confident to comment on their skill...
as taught to your grandfathers uncle.
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