windwalker wrote:Interesting my taiji bother met with George Xu a while back.
He felt that my taiji bothers skill was higher then his own.....
Perhaps he was referring to Taiji skills. Like I said, he's not really a Taiji guy.
windwalker wrote:Interesting my taiji bother met with George Xu a while back.
He felt that my taiji bothers skill was higher then his own.....
Niall Keane wrote:
I guess Yang lu Chan, yang ban huo, the lad tai chi got its name from and his son both named "the invincible" got it wrong then?
C.J.W. wrote:windwalker wrote:Interesting my taiji bother met with George Xu a while back.
He felt that my taiji bothers skill was higher then his own.....
Perhaps he was referring to Taiji skills. Like I said, he's not really a Taiji guy.
What is Tai Chi, Really? George Xu Answers
Zhao attracts players from all other styles as well as beginners with little or no prior training. At 52, he does no exercise or even forms. He just pushes hands with anyone and everyone who comes by. I have seen men in their prime, twenty years younger than Zhao and twice his weight, with years and years of formal training go rolling off with big grins on their faces.
MaartenSFS wrote:How is that not talking down to others?
MaartenSFS wrote:I'd expect a Taiji punch to show some form of Fajin in their strikes. I've met all sorts of Taijiquan practitioners (and BGZ, XYQ, XYLHQ etc.) and there are various methods. The power generation is quite different from boxing or Sanda. It shouldn't take an hour to wind up either, but be as quick as a normal punch.
For the record, I can't feel my Qi either.. To me, Neigong training is about learning to sink your weight and use full-body power, amongst other things.
Appledog wrote:That's Shaolin.
califax wrote:The whole debate is rather silly. If you hit with the right knuckle and a single straight vector from knuckle through hand and armbone to elbow it doesn't matter whether you have a closed fist or an open one. If you don't, you will break your hand. A closed fist will not prevent that injury at all. That's why boxers have the gloves. Because a fist does not protect your hand. What a closed fist allows is for easier stabilization of the hook.
The implications of that is not just about the fist, it's obliviously deeper than that.A saying in Shaolin is "punch as if your fist is a stone tied to a rope (or string)"
Sinking your weight and rooting and using whole body power are hallmarks of any basic Shaolin style. It's nothing special. If that is neigong then how is (tai chi) different?
Bao wrote:Fajin doesn't need to be shown to be there.
Chapter 14, the "Quanjing Jieyao Pian" (Chapter on the Fist Canon and the Essentials of Nimbleness), endorses
unarmed combat exercises as physical training for troops. No literary precedent for such a work has been discovered.
Historical evidence suggests, however, that pre-Ming armies have used some forms of martial arts in training or
demonstrations. Also, similarities between the "Quanjing" and modern taijiquan raise questions about a possible
common martial arts heritage.
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