everything wrote:It's different to say
- abstract is helpful
- formlessness is a goal of an art
- I don't know the/an app
Most of the Rorschach test issues here and everywhere are likely due to the last problem, not the first two.
For example when we had that thread on fist under the elbow, no one agreed. Most people always think brush knee has to do with striking. it's not that other arts are "better", but they usually lack the ambiguity. Everyone around the world can know what osoto gari is for example.
BruceP wrote:Well, that's just it. A movement sequence like BKTS or FUE can be a throw or a punch or a punch or a throw or both at the same time.
johnwang wrote:As long as you can control your opponent's "leading arm", the other arm may not function much. This is how important the "leading arm control" is in the throwing art.
middleway wrote:That's a kind of "flamboyant - high risk, high reward" BJJ attack, particularly in competition, but we usually find the hip (iliac crest) with the foot. I see in Sambo he's going for the thigh - that's quite different. It would be interesting to explore the differences.
This is the same way Caio Terra does this armbar. basically pulling guard on the wrong side and kicking out the thigh.
I have actually played with this quite alot and when the attack to the thigh is strong its pretty hard to back away from.
(sorry to derail the thread )
Plus the possibility of it all going horribly wrong.. and you knocking yourself out!
BruceP wrote:GrahamB wrote:
Just to clarify a few things:
1. Nobody is making money from you clicking a link to Scott's blog. What is this "bait" you keep talking about?
2. Most people who write about martial arts on the Internet do it for free. I write my blog for free. It doesn't make any money. I do it because I want to. There are no ads on there making me money (Wordpress occasionally throws an ad up because thats the price you pay for getting free hosting, but I if somebody click it then none of that comes my way).
3. Occasionally I'll link to something I've been paid to write for another outlet, or to somebody else's blog that I like - so what?
4. You are still going on about me not showing you enough respect when you first joined EF (what - 10 years ago??) If you can't engage in a rational conversation without blowing up and calling everybody who doesn't agree with you "full of shit" then there will be no room for constructive conversation.
5. Most importantly, this all has nothing to do with Maartin's thread - how about we just stick to that instead. Like you said, I like the idea of stepping on people's feet. I was actually agreeing with you. I just didn't realise I was stepping on yours.
Fair enough, Graham.
I don't care whether any one here respects me, or not. That isn't what motivates me to join in the discussions and probably why I don't have a blog
I posted that recounting to illustrate how far you are behind the curve and to typify how many of the ideas I've been repeating on some sort of weird loop for the past 15+ years are now becoming 'new info'. It's only a matter of time until people get on board with the Neutrality Principle.
Lots of folks don't agree with me, but I don't think they're necessarily full of shit. It was only you and that other guy. If you look at my profile, you'll see that you're actually my favorite martial artist. I wrote your name when that question became a feature of our profile info here, and I mean it. You've gone from irrational and Confucian to almost rational and Taoist, and you're challenging conventions and hierarchies that you used to defend whenever you and I clashed over ideas.
Sorry about your foot
marvin8 wrote:BruceP wrote:Well, that's just it. A movement sequence like BKTS or FUE can be a throw or a punch or a punch or a throw or both at the same time.
BKTS is a strategy; defending against an incoming force by rolling back. Then, using that incoming force against an opponent to control or attack by pressing forward. This is considered one movement, that requires listening to an opponent’s energy and timing
MaartenSFS wrote:cloudz wrote:The osoto gari technique isn't in brush knee.... it's in repulse monkey twist step. repulse monkey twist step is where the pulling hand is on opposite side to the leg stepping back (most Yang styles don't have this move). The big clue is in how the legs move; the leg sweeps/ steps backward. In brush knee you step forward, how can it possibly map onto osoto gari - well, it doesn't. Not really, but that's never stopped people making this stuff up as they go along..
Maarten, just learn the English names.
Wouldn't you say that using a Japanese name and telling me to learn English names in one post is setting double standards???
BruceP wrote:
Well, that's just it. A movement sequence like BKTS or FUE can be a throw or a punch or a punch or a throw or both at the same time.
cloudz wrote:MaartenSFS wrote:cloudz wrote:The osoto gari technique isn't in brush knee.... it's in repulse monkey twist step. repulse monkey twist step is where the pulling hand is on opposite side to the leg stepping back (most Yang styles don't have this move). The big clue is in how the legs move; the leg sweeps/ steps backward. In brush knee you step forward, how can it possibly map onto osoto gari - well, it doesn't. Not really, but that's never stopped people making this stuff up as they go along..
Maarten, just learn the English names.
Wouldn't you say that using a Japanese name and telling me to learn English names in one post is setting double standards???
no I wouldn't, and if I have to explain myself you're simply not worth the bother.
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