Ian wrote:Cheng was a shuaijiao practitioner, and Dong only accepted students who were already adept at other styles.
You might as well study a throwing / takedown style first, and then use your bagua to fill in the holes. Or train both in conjunction.
Many styles "contain" throws, but unless you're regularly wrestling with friends, you really don't know whether:
-you have the attributes,
-you can use your stuff against higher-level opponents,
-you possess a grappler's body,
-you can sense and capitalise on action-reaction... etc.
It's how the bagua founders would've trained, imo.
everything wrote:Definitely. Wrestling/grappling is a great base and must've worked for Dong and Cheng. BGZ w/o that background they had doesn't seem ideal, or assumes some advanced level first. I probably won't go back to judo due to time/distance/interests, but definitely agree. I was reasonably ok at those 4 points (hobbyist level), but some other sports take most of my time/available sport energy (I'm only reasonably good at those too at hobbyist level, sigh. It is what it is.).
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Tim Cartmell wrote:Basically, Ba Gua Zhang fighting theory advocates the complete avoidance of opposing power with power and adopts a kind of guerilla warfare mentality. The Ba Gua Zhang fighter continuously seeks to avoid the apex of the opponent's force and attacks or counterattacks from the opponent's weak angles. By circling around and circumventing incoming force and resistance, the Ba Gua Zhang fighter applies his own whole body power from a position of superiority This strategy allows the smaller and weaker fighter to apply maximum force from an angle at which the larger and stronger opponent cannot resist, effectively making the weaker fighter more powerful at that moment (for example, I have 10 units of total strength and my opponent has 20. I attack with my full 10 units of strength at an angle at which my opponent is only able to use 5 units of his total strength. I am, at that moment, literally twice as strong as my opponent).
In order to obtain a superior position, the Ba Gua Zhang fighter applies the basic strategies trained in the solo forms' practice, that is, circling around the opponent or rotating the opponent around oneself. The result is the same in both cases. The Ba Gua Zhang fighter avoids a head to head confrontation with the opponent's power and obtains a superior position from which to attack. Along the way, the opponent often becomes entangled in the Ba Gua Zhang fighter's limbs and loses control of his center of balance (correctly applied momentum overcomes brute strength every time). This loss of balance causes a commensurate loss of power and further weakens the opponent, leaving him vulnerable to the Ba Gun Zhang fighter's attack. Finally, the relaxed physical and mental state of the Ba Gua Zhang fighter makes it possible for him to change and adapt as the situation demands. His movements are spontaneous and difficult to predict. Fighters of all disciplines agree that the unpredictable fighter is the hardest to beat (especially when he circles behind you!).
marvin8 wrote:.
Excerpt from AN INTRODUCTION TO BA GUA ZHANG, http://www.shenwu.com/bagua.htm:Tim Cartmell wrote:Basically, Ba Gua Zhang fighting theory advocates the complete avoidance of opposing power with power and adopts a kind of guerilla warfare mentality. The Ba Gua Zhang fighter continuously seeks to avoid the apex of the opponent's force and attacks or counterattacks from the opponent's weak angles. By circling around and circumventing incoming force and resistance, the Ba Gua Zhang fighter applies his own whole body power from a position of superiority
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