KEND wrote:As far as I know he never took part in competition. There are stories of him demonstrating on the film set but could have been put out by his showbiz friends. It is difficult to say whether he or any of the CMA stars could actually fight well, Donnie had a traditional upbringing in MA my guess is that he can take care of himself. Due to BL Wing Chun became a major MA, the lineage came down mainly from Leung Jan who was a constable and obviously knew how to fight, Yip Man's top student who was strong and capable took care of challenges but until BL's emergence it was just another Southern style MA, along with Hung Gar, Choi Li Fut etc. Movies have created a world which puts WC on top of the heap besting all comers
I believe there was an article on Jackman Wong in IKF or Black Belt some while ago
IMO, if Bruce Lee entered a karate tournament during that time, the champions would beat him for the fact of the rules. Also IMO, Bruce would lose to the current MMA champion in his weight class in and out of the ring. It may be different if Bruce had years of experience in those venues.KEND wrote:The new Dragon movie is bound to create controversy over whether Bruce Lee could actually fight.
Steve James wrote:I think one has to look at BL in the context of the times. The Wong story was interesting for two reasons. One: it centered around BL teaching non-Chinese, and two, because it was claimed that Wong was Lee's equal or better. The reality is that BL continued to teach non-Chinese; but, we can't really know about the fight.
He made the Chinese people proud, especially in the countries where racism was present. He got people interested in the martial arts and physical fitness. He was a role model for some people in and out of the martial arts.
Bao wrote:He made the Chinese people proud, especially in the countries where racism was present. He got people interested in the martial arts and physical fitness. He was a role model for some people in and out of the martial arts.
There has always been racism or at least orientalism around Chinese people since the 19th century. The traditional picture of a chinese man was the generalization that was either cruel or cowardly. I don't people realize how much Bruce Lee did to change common views on chinese people, or at least make them better and more varied. Here there was a Chinese who had a lot of integrity, and at the same time one who would show off his masulinity and was not afraid to fight for what he believed in. Bruce Lee represented something different and something completely new in popular culture of the Westersn world.
marvin8 wrote:if Bruce Lee entered a karate tournament during that time, the champions would beat him for the fact of the rules.
marvin8 wrote:KEND wrote:As far as I know he never took part in competition. There are stories of him demonstrating on the film set but could have been put out by his showbiz friends. It is difficult to say whether he or any of the CMA stars could actually fight well, Donnie had a traditional upbringing in MA my guess is that he can take care of himself. Due to BL Wing Chun became a major MA, the lineage came down mainly from Leung Jan who was a constable and obviously knew how to fight, Yip Man's top student who was strong and capable took care of challenges but until BL's emergence it was just another Southern style MA, along with Hung Gar, Choi Li Fut etc. Movies have created a world which puts WC on top of the heap besting all comers
I believe there was an article on Jackman Wong in IKF or Black Belt some while ago
Going by memory of what I read, the only regulation competition Bruce had was beating the champion boxer at his high school in Hong Kong. As far as fights, Bruce had rooftop fights in his teens, beat Yoichi Nakachi (karate) at a YMCA handball court in Seattle, fought Wong Jack Man and beat an extra on the set of Enter the Dragon.
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