Fa Xing wrote:I had a similar experience like this when I was a young monk. Best thing to do is be aware of it, not place any particular value to it, it is what it is, and just keep on meditating. You'll get a lot of different experiences here and there that are not necessarily experienced by others, this is why it's always good to have a teacher or other more advanced practitioners to bounce things. Of course, they'll just tell you to be aware of it and keep meditating.
northern_mantis wrote: definitely have hit a new chapter and I'm pretty sure it's a good thing, no side effects so far.
Basically any really evocative experiences
I've been taught about all kinds of phases of development but this one seems to not fit any of those. If anybody has experienced anything similar or is particularly knowledgeable I would be grateful for any input.
Peacedog wrote:
Developmental level meditative work physically changes you. Sometimes in subtle ways (i.e. increased empathic abilities) and sometimes in not so subtle ways (i.e. gaining 30 pounds and developing an integrated fascial/tendon network resulting in the golden bell
Peacedog wrote:
As long as people keep showing up at my door looking for relief after having been broken by some random a-hole teacher who started something in them and didn't know how to fix it, I will have an interest in trying to better control and repair the side effects of these phenomena.
Granted, I tend to call out people who break others and use the lame excuse of "its their karma", etc. t.
willie wrote:Anyway's, I do not do any mediation anymore. I have found that these type of practices are far to dangerous.
It's something that is just better off left alone. Once you open the minds eye, it is very difficult to shut it.
People dream of opening the mind eye and listen to people who consider themselves experts...?
When your dealing with things like "the mind" or "your mind", there is no such thing as an expert and
I certainly would not trust anyone.
Peacedog wrote:I'd say probably 75% have some kind of sensory perception problem. They see things, hear things or have odd tactile responses to stimuli. The other 25% have kundalini related issues of burning sensations in the body or trouble with uncontrolled out of body projection.
The kundalini related issues are tougher as it requires them to finish going through kundalini awakening and my go to for that are the micro-cosmic orbit based .
willie wrote:Peacedog wrote:I'd say probably 75% have some kind of sensory perception problem. They see things, hear things or have odd tactile responses to stimuli. The other 25% have kundalini related issues of burning sensations in the body or trouble with uncontrolled out of body projection.
The kundalini related issues are tougher as it requires them to finish going through kundalini awakening and my go to for that are the micro-cosmic orbit based .
I have a couple more questions if you don't mind?
Did you ever tell the people with the Kundalini exercises that all they really have to do is just stop doing it all together? Did you tell them that they will just go back to normal? Did you tell them that there is really no real good reason to tamper with it in the first place?
There is also a gateway that stops an overflow of the subconscious mind into the conscious mind. That gate is supposed to be there it is to protect you from the overwhelming information that the mind has stored throughout your entire lifetime. These are some of the dangers of tampering with the natural mind.
willie wrote:I have a couple more questions if you don't mind?
Did you ever tell the people to win the Kundalini exercises that all they really have to do is just stop doing it all together? Did you tell them that they will just go back to normal? Did you tell them that they're is really no real good reason to tamper with it in the first place?
There is also a gateway that stops an overflow of the subconscious mind into the conscious mind. That gate is supposed to be there it is to protect you from the overwhelming information that the mind has stored throughout your entire lifetime. These are some of the dangers of tampering with the natural mind.
TrainingDummy wrote:
Not everybody just "goes back to normal" on the suspension of practices and fear mongering on "tampering with the natural mind" just builds up tension that makes their symptoms worse. I've met some people who were still having spontaneous openings years after stopping their original practices. Some students need to go through the process to the point where they can turn the hallucinogenic experiences on or off at will.
To the OP, there's both Indian and Tibetan Buddhist tantra teachings that take the expanded states of consciousness as "fuel" for the higher practices, might be an idea to speak with your teachers about them or get new teachers.
willie wrote:TrainingDummy wrote:
Not everybody just "goes back to normal" on the suspension of practices and fear mongering on "tampering with the natural mind" just builds up tension that makes their symptoms worse. I've met some people who were still having spontaneous openings years after stopping their original practices. Some students need to go through the process to the point where they can turn the hallucinogenic experiences on or off at will.
To the OP, there's both Indian and Tibetan Buddhist tantra teachings that take the expanded states of consciousness as "fuel" for the higher practices, might be an idea to speak with your teachers about them or get new teachers.
There's a big difference between fear-mongering and just being smart. What I'm wondering is if these poor individuals who walk around having hallucinations that they can turn on or off at will were ever even warned that they may have that happen to them in the first place.
And what was the grand prize supposed to be for risking their Mental Health?
From my limited understanding these meditations are supposed to be used during death. It is supposed to be a way of controlling the mind while a person is dying and help steer the consciousness through the Bardo phase of death and rebirth. so what is the point if the people are Christians and don't even believe in rebirth?
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