Appledog wrote:
Time is always against us. Thanks for your response, I'll wait.
So on one hand I totally understand your desire to follow your teacher's guidance and not reveal his stuff.
My teacher was a indoor student who recieved a direct transmission which cost him a small fortune, why would he want to give it away?
I also spent a lot of money on it as mine is direct as well.
You're also wrong when you say there is only one way. Nope, there are many ways."
There may be many ways, all other ways will be just some sort of shortcuts that will
completely undermine the necessary skills and knowledge necessary to power the advanced application's.
Actually when I first learned to fajing it had nothing (apparent) to do with circles and everything (apparently) to do with being empty. It's like a negative charge repelling another negative charge; there wasn't any visible force I decided to create. I simply became empty, and whoosh--out came the force. Saying that I became empty or created emptiness or 'relaxed' are all very very accurate descriptions I could give you about what I did 'directly'.
These descriptions that you are giving are not good enough for someone who says
that he is a judge of tai chi. fajin is created by gathering energy and then releasing that energy.
the energy (peng jin) is simular to spring steel or a coiling spring. Either you create your own
fajin by bending your own bows or your opponent does it for you. (borrowing).
"but it would help you do it IF you did the work and was ready to express the skill but just hadn't came to the realizations you needed first, "
There was a yoga instructor that I met who talked just like this. This instructor thought they had all kinds of powers and constantly used terms Like
well grounded and removed all the blockages. Upon testing this person found out that they
had no real grounding at all...And as far as talking about removing blockages, This instructors
motion was so ordinary that it was simular to a stick in a box of rocks. So now when I hear all
these terms, It just reminds me of a parrot who repeats empty slogans. So I ask you to
clarify your statement.
"The point being that if the explanation didn't make sense that's on you not the explainer. It was this process which allowed me to discover that if I turned the idea this way or that way, I could see what I was looking for, I found the connection."
This is total delusion, you are lost. you do not look for any kind of connection by viewing a concept from different angles. What you are suppose to be working on is the promise of "power everywhere". it sounds like you have mixed some transcendental material with the working end of the art.
"Back in the day, before modern distractions, western science, and critical thinking, a younger Chinese gent living in the middle of nowhere or in a smaller farming community would not have the luxury of rejecting an elder's explanation or immediately coming up with his own (flawed) side-door explanation. He would be left to ponder, maybe for years, because that's just how it was understood, and it was on him if he didn't get it."
This was how my old Yang style teacher viewed the art. It is not correct either and he is also a tai chi judge. Now pay attention "There is no possible way to figure out tai chi by pondering anything. The student must be led to the correct understanding by not only practicing and being
told, But also, The skills being performed on him directly. I will tell you this.
It should feel as if you were in a car accident and you can not comprehend...
But that will unfold in time and glimpses will slowly take form.
"That is the problem with making up your own analogy -- "like ball bearings" -- for example. It comes with a host of additional baggage and is missing a host of "standard additional baggage" that was intended to come along with the previous/old/in-door way of explaining things. Go too far down that path and you will end up somewhere else. You still have no way of discerning the end-truth of what you are shooting for by going down that road. Helical gears is another one. I might as well say "A big fat stick". Or using physics explanations. Ok so you're telling me that if I use a stick to perform rollback, or cai (pluck) or any similar technique, it is based on physics. Sure! But what's going on inside the stick? So you see even the very definition of internal and external hasn't been grasped properly, it seems. And if it has, just go and do the work. Don't add on all this additional stuff and make up your own stuff, it won't work. Or it will and you'll end up with something that for better or worse is "like a different religion" -- some kind of different power generation. And it's not traditional and that means it's basically untested. Then again this has happened before, and sometimes leads to a new art, sometimes even a better art. So it's not all bad."
Are you sure you want me to shred this one?
"But it ceases to be "tai chi" or whatever art you are learning and becomes something else. And if you find yourself in the unenviable position of not knowing the real and believing the fake is real because it works or because it feels special, I'm not sure what to say about that. At worst you will end up embarrassing yourself. The way out of that is testing what you know, being humble and allowing yourself to invest in loss when appropriate."
The way out? LOL!
I'm not investing in loss, that was my old style. I'm investing in power everywhere...
". Oh, you want to be a master? Fine, go train four or six hours a day. Now if you find yourself in that situation, that you are dedicated and getting some kind of benefit, but it's not enough for you, then find another teacher. If you stop making progress don't sit there in a rut for years, get out there and get involved "
Most of the masters that I have met in these arts do not have the real art, They have delusion
and basicly just qigong. "The real art is power evrywhere, not yeild everywhere"
It is possible that in your area there is a teacher, an older Chinese gent perhaps, who can feed you the energy you need right away and pull you up. Sometimes all you need is a fresh perspective. Be giving and humble.
Are you sure that you don't want to retract this statement?
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