kenneth fish wrote:It's a standard Tongbei movement.
C.J.W. wrote:You often see Tongbei in kung-fu flicks starring Jet Li and Wu Jing (a Chinese kung-fu film actor who was also a member of the Beijing Wushu team) because it has all these rapid and extended arm movements that look very fancy and exciting to the audience.
C.J.W. wrote:You often see Tongbei in kung-fu flicks starring Jet Li and Wu Jing (a Chinese kung-fu film actor who was also a member of the Beijing Wushu team) because it has all these rapid and extended arm movements that look very fancy and exciting to the audience.
oragami_itto wrote:So Jet Li throws this into most of his later movies, I think everything he's released direct in the states, at least.
It's a hand that flies out to the left to draw attention before a right comes smashing in.
I was wondering if it comes from any system anybody here is familiar with or if it's just some thing Yeun Woo Ping decided to start throwing in to make me chuckle every damn time I see it.
Here he is using it against Billy Chau in "Fist of Legend"
oragami_itto wrote:So Jet Li throws this into most of his later movies, I think everything he's released direct in the states, at least.
It's a hand that flies out to the left to draw attention before a right comes smashing in.
I was wondering if it comes from any system anybody here is familiar with or if it's just some thing Yeun Woo Ping decided to start throwing in to make me chuckle every damn time I see it.
Here he is using it against Billy Chau in "Fist of Legend"
Progressive Indirect Attack - Taken from Western Fencing originally, the idea of "second intention" is employed here where you use an initial false attack or feint to draw some type of defensive reaction from your opponent. After you get the attempted block or parry you deceive that defensive motion by quickly shifting lines and hitting to an open target. Progressive means you will cover at least half the distance between you and your opponent by moving forward on the initial false attack or feint. Indirect means to gain time by putting your opponent a half beat behind your motions. You don't wait for their block to land, you shift lines just as it's moving towards your initial strike. This timing is used to take advantage of the best "window of opportunity" to deceive the opponent.
oragami_itto wrote:It's a hand that flies out to the left to draw attention before a right comes smashing in.
I was wondering if it comes from any system anybody here is familiar with or if it's just some thing Yeun Woo Ping decided to start throwing in to make me chuckle every damn time I see it.
oragami_itto wrote:It certainly is a feint but not really how Bruce did it that I recall. It's just this one specific feint he does.
There's no monopoly on feinting, just curious about that expression of it
Watching that video, I see one he uses a lot that looks like white crane spreads wings. You could work the transition from that to brush knee very similarly to Jets move
Green Tiger wrote:For reference, the yellow captions appear at the following times:
5:06 - 聲東擊西 sheng dong ji xi, feint to the east but attack to the west
oragami_itto wrote:What I mean is that Bruce Lee would use the feint more to close distance. Looking at the description in the link you sent, the feint brings you halfway there then you immediately launch the follow up attack.
Jet's feint is while engaged at close range.
What I was saying about the form is that some of his feints look like White Crane Spreads Wings sort of, the right hand comes up next to/slightly above the face with the palm facing the opponent.
The next move in my form is Brush Left Knee and Twist Step, and the left hand comes across from the left to the right.
This general shape, from the end of white crane to the beginning of brush knee, is similar to Jet's feint. High outside attention draw to one side, crossing strike from the other. That can easily be used as an application idea for practice.
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