I can definitely appreciate that Wayne. That was the exact model of my yang style teacher from years ago. He felt that the spiritual planes were an absolute necessity for reaching the highest levels. I'm not really too sure if I agree with him on that matter, but I'm definitely not against it either.wayne hansen wrote:First when people talk about spiritual aspects each individual has a differing view of what it entails
It should be a result of standard training
Three stages are needed
1. Earth.body training
2. Man.mind training
3. Heaven.spirit training
Without the first two in place the third will lead to dark places
wayne hansen wrote:First when people talk about spiritual aspects each individual has a differing view of what it entails
It should be a result of standard training
Three stages are needed
1. Earth.body training
2. Man.mind training
3. Heaven.spirit training
Without the first two in place the third will lead to dark places
RobP3 wrote:wayne hansen wrote:First when people talk about spiritual aspects each individual has a differing view of what it entails
It should be a result of standard training
Three stages are needed
1. Earth.body training
2. Man.mind training
3. Heaven.spirit training
Without the first two in place the third will lead to dark places
I wonder what 2 and 3 look like?
wayne hansen wrote:To many people train low level tai chi and leave either thinking it has no value or they understand its depth
They move on to other things that are easier or travel from one art to another never really reaching any worthwhile level
They then talk about tai chi as though the were once an expert
In reality they are just jilted lovers
that is one hell of a post Wayne. My old Yang style teacher would love it I believe. But my Chen style teacher would feel quite differently about it. My Chen style teacher paid a lot of money for the best Tai Chi available. That's why he is so good. On the other hand, my old Yang style teacher thought that he had some of the best material available, but he does not. His power, at least he think so, is from a direct link to taoism and Buddhism. It's pretty much the same thing as if you were a Christian who believed in God and gains power through God. The daoist have their hierarchy and the Buddhists as wellwayne hansen wrote:2&3 don't look like anything they are internal developments of 1
It is a way of focus that cannot be achieved without the first method being firmly grasped
The physical is the only thing we can see without deluding ourselves
If the physical is not right the mind has no home
If the mind has no home the spirit roams aimlessly
To many people train low level tai chi and leave either thinking it has no value or they understand its depth
They move on to other things that are easier or travel from one art to another never really reaching any worthwhile level
They then talk about tai chi as though the were once an expert
In reality they are just jilted lovers
wayne hansen wrote:Nothing to do with religion
It is process pure and simple
Mind science leading to clarity
wayne hansen wrote:Nothing to do with religion
It is process pure and simple
Mind science leading to clarity
wayne hansen wrote:First when people talk about spiritual aspects each individual has a differing view of what it entails
It should be a result of standard training
Three stages are needed
1. Earth.body training
2. Man.mind training
3. Heaven.spirit training
Without the first two in place the third will lead to dark places
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