Ian C. Kuzushi wrote:Michael wrote:grzegorz wrote:Where did you hear that? Because i haven't. In fact I have heard that drug convictions get the longest sentences at least they did during Reagan's war on drugs.
I ask because I have seen and heard of many people getting away with a slap on the wrist for a rape charge yet had it been murder the sentence would have been longer.
I would check my sources on that because I think in 2018 in my particular state your statement doesn't hold up.
In Texas, it's anywhere from 2 to 99 years. There's a large gradient of offenses in that category.
Hmm, perhaps a better way to put that would that there is a wide degree latitude granted to judges in sentencing. That is what is evidenced by what we see not only in Tehas, but elsewhere, too.
Make no mistake, rapists of men and boys should face similar sentencing. But, they don't. See the recent gang rape by Wheaton college football players who had to...wait for it...write an 8 page essay after forcibly abducting and sodomizing their underclassman. Boys will be boys.
oragami_itto wrote:We do occasionally get some things right, but if you think four consecutive life sentences is too hard for filming yourself repeatedly raping a 3 year old.... I got nothing.
A fitting punishment would be dragging his ass behind a car going 10 miles an hour all the way from El Paso to Orange.
The sale of just 7 grams (roughly one-quarter ounce) of cannabis also carries a maximum penalty of 180 days in jail and a possible $2,000 fine. But selling more than 50 pounds of the herb (a felony) can land you in prison for 99 years, with a mandatory minimum sentence of five years. Selling any amount of marijuana to a minor is a felony, with a maximum sentence of 20 years.
Michael wrote:That said, I just watched an hour long interview with a former bank robber who got 12 years for 5 robberies, but found his calling in the klink as a jailhouse lawyer, "winning" two cases at the Supreme Court, and later becoming a "real" lawyer when he was released. He said that he deserved his first 5 years in prison, but by then it was obvious to him and most others that he was actually reformed and no longer a threat to anyone, and the next 6 years incarcerated were not affected by his continually useful work producing legal briefs for other inmates.
Generally, I think long prison sentences are the wrong way to go and I wish our society had the insight to deal with these problems another way. There are of course exceptions. I remember one time another RSF member said that some crimes really do deserve the death penalty, but it being available means some will receive it unjustly, so I can't be in favor of it. That's my view as well.
oragami_itto wrote:Michael wrote:Generally, I think long prison sentences are the wrong way to go and I wish our society had the insight to deal with these problems another way. There are of course exceptions. I remember one time another RSF member said that some crimes really do deserve the death penalty, but it being available means some will receive it unjustly, so I can't be in favor of it. That's my view as well.
When the lives of the innocent are so cheap and readily spent, I can't shed a tear for the guilty.
Steve James wrote:Hmm, that's an ad hominem that does nothing to support any argument.
klonk wrote:Steve James wrote:Hmm, that's an ad hominem that does nothing to support any argument.
Ah not so. An ad hominem is an attack on the speaker, or a support of the speaker (most people don't know that second part.) But pointing out a red herring is merely a service to reason in general.
Rather, you criticized me
klonk wrote:Steve, did it ever dawn on you that "my experience is as a (fill in the blank)" is in itself ad hominem?
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