Bao wrote:Why did he go so easy on the WC guy? He ended the "Tai Chi Master" very fast, but here he goes in give a few blows and back up without finishing him off. Comparing with the other match, it's pretty obvious that it's all set up .
Bao wrote:marvin8 wrote:Wei Lei (tai chi) showed very little fighting skill. The wing chun guy had more. "Go so easy on the WC guy?" No. Xu almost knocked out the wing chun guy at 1:05 and gave him a bloody nose.
As Middleway pointed out, the rule set here is very different. Or rather, here there was some rules in favour to the WC guy. When the first round begin, Xu doesn't go in with the mind-set to run over the WC guy, instead, he plays with him and is not scared to take a few punches in the face. It's obvious that the organiser wants a longer fight to please the audience. They both play along. Xu takes a few punches and the WC gy puts very little strength in his punches. If he tries to put some power in them, I don't know. I can't tell if the WC guy has more fighting skills than the "Tai Chi Master". Here I see none.
willie wrote:Actually I disagree. It does not look set up.
marvin8 wrote:It does not excuse the tai chi and wing chun players from not applying their CMA skills: balance, relaxation, neutralizing, bridging, sticking, trapping, pulling, CMA power generation, etc. (e.g., break structure, pull Xu's guard down, move to the side and punch).
Bao wrote:marvin8 wrote:It does not excuse the tai chi and wing chun players from not applying their CMA skills: balance, relaxation, neutralizing, bridging, sticking, trapping, pulling, CMA power generation, etc. (e.g., break structure, pull Xu's guard down, move to the side and punch).
I have no idea about who the WC guy was, but the Tai Chi guy is a self-proclaimed joke with no skills whatsoever. He had nothing to bring to the table.
South China Morning Post on Tuesday, 02 May, 2017 wrote:Xu, a trained kung fu free-combat sportsman who taught himself MMA, has claimed that traditional martial arts are outdated and only good for keeping in shape. In combat, free-style fighting or boxing was more practical, The Beijing News quoted him as saying on Monday.
Xu’s comments came after he took just 10 seconds to defeat tai chi master Wei Lei – who also calls himself Lei Lei – in a fight in Chengdu, Sichuan province, last week, reigniting debate over which approach is superior. Wei is a practitioner of the Yang style of tai chi, characterised by slow, steady movements.
Bao wrote:
I don’t say that it was completely set up. I say that Xu played with the WC guy and took it easy. He could probably have ended it .
GrahamB wrote:windwalker wrote:So did the taiji guy, and still
In each it was over before it even started.
The mma/sanda guy could have ended it
at any point.
Once the WC guy found out his punching was ineffective
it was over. Of course there other wc guys who if they hit you, one tends to notice it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXc5yJ5hdn0
If people focused more on sparring ability not punching power then don't you think CMA wouldn't be in this mess?
Fa Xing wrote:GrahamB wrote:windwalker wrote:So did the taiji guy, and still
In each it was over before it even started.
The mma/sanda guy could have ended it
at any point.
Once the WC guy found out his punching was ineffective
it was over. Of course there other wc guys who if they hit you, one tends to notice it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXc5yJ5hdn0
If people focused more on sparring ability not punching power then don't you think CMA wouldn't be in this mess?
We may not agree on somethings, but I definitely agree with this.
Fa Xing wrote:I fought a Wing Chun guy once, twice my size, he couldn't stop a double-leg for the life of him. He also didn't take to kindly to the liver kick I gave him. LOL.
Strange wrote:i know where yáll are coming from
but from what i understand, if your strikes have penetrative power
size difference should not matter
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