Bao wrote:But what do when he gets up and attack again? Another throw and then one again? Here is the difference between combat and sports.
wayne hansen wrote:
In the early 90's Greg mullane assistant coach to warren Ryan one of the best rugby league coaches came and stayed with me and learnt a few of my pushing exercises and tried to get me to move back to Sydney to act as a trainer for Balmain.
The stuff they are doing now is far beyond anything I could have given them
wiesiek wrote:Trick wrote:everything wrote:one more nice one from rugby
@marvin, my previous comment was for this Trick`s post,
have no experience in rugby, or Maoris wrestling.
here >maori step< , is less obvious,
I was in similar situation once, but in the forest not on the playground, hopefully one on one situation.
Speakin` so:
I did kinda of seoinage without hands, what is very funny `cause seoinage is in the group of >hands throw < in judo.
Anyway, I just turned and lower a little beat my body under attacker, and then slightly lift .
His move filled all another points important for nice throw.
Look of his face , when he failed up front of me, was well worth 10 years of the trainings / It was long ago ,and he was almost twice of my size/
anyway
we are sidetracking Johns post
- make push...
wiesiek wrote:ps
not quite understand why this old CMC vid. you posted?
I do not arguing, that very hard push can send you away,
long,long way.
in fact you may even achivin` death from starvation while flyin`...
wiesiek wrote:use your legs , dammed!
wiesiek wrote:thank You for the demos , JW
@marvin ,
demoing endless pushes is pointless on the forum,
it my present understanding is,
Las Vegas Shaolin wrote:Throwing techniques taught at the Las Vegas Kung Fu martial art school, use the principles of Yin and Yang, These principles rely on the natural, physical laws of balance.
These kung fu martial art techniques uproots and throws the opponent very quickly. Yin and Yang is the concept of opposite force acting in coordination with each other in order to form a balance In Shuai Chiao Chinese wrestling the opponent's own body position is used against him. Fast moving foot work and leg sweeps are combined with techniques that control the opponent's upper body. This creates a push / pull action that resembles the yin and yang symbol. For example, one might push on the opponents shoulder while sweeping his legs backward so that the upper body would go in one direction while the lower body would go in the opposite direction thus off balancing the opponent and taking him to the ground. These kung fu martial art techniques uproots and throws the opponent very quickly. The emphasis of these kung fu techniques are on absorbing and blending with an opponents own force or momentum and using this force to slam them to the ground. The ground or the earth will literally be a weapon that you can take with you wherever you go and is always available.
wiesiek wrote:ok,
if you really, really like go deep blue -
is GM Chang demoing the same "push" like CMC, in above examples ?
yes and no,
Steve James wrote:John, the way I was taught, "An" (what is translated as "push") really means something more like "push down" or 'the action of' pushing down.
marvin8 wrote:Defender creates angle, makes contact, deceptively yields stiff arm while lowering level, pushes attacker (at dead angle) up, backwards and down (an), sending opponent to the ground. . . .
Because, I felt it was similar in handling the incoming force, other than sending attacker down to the ground.
wiesiek wrote:I love it!
we are diggin` in the deepest roots of the Chinese philosophy....
let`s agree, that push is like foreplay ,
important and basic,
BUT
it is only prelude in most of the real cases,
so
over-focusing here,- deadly mistake.
marvin8 wrote:Also per other Shuai Chiaoist, pushing is an integral part of the art.
Excerpt from "The History And Origins Of Modern Chinese Shuai Chiao Kung Fu," https://www.lvshaolin.com/shuai_chiao/:Las Vegas Shaolin wrote:Throwing techniques taught at the Las Vegas Kung Fu martial art school, use the principles of Yin and Yang, These principles rely on the natural, physical laws of balance.
These kung fu martial art techniques uproots and throws the opponent very quickly. Yin and Yang is the concept of opposite force acting in coordination with each other in order to form a balance In Shuai Chiao Chinese wrestling the opponent's own body position is used against him. Fast moving foot work and leg sweeps are combined with techniques that control the opponent's upper body. This creates a push / pull action that resembles the yin and yang symbol. For example, one might push on the opponents shoulder while sweeping his legs backward so that the upper body would go in one direction while the lower body would go in the opposite direction thus off balancing the opponent and taking him to the ground. These kung fu martial art techniques uproots and throws the opponent very quickly. The emphasis of these kung fu techniques are on absorbing and blending with an opponents own force or momentum and using this force to slam them to the ground. The ground or the earth will literally be a weapon that you can take with you wherever you go and is always available.
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