Finny wrote:the 'engetsu' effect the kuda yari they use creates is scary.
Engetsu - is that twisting the spear while thrusting?......Sorry to go off topic
Finny wrote:the 'engetsu' effect the kuda yari they use creates is scary.
MaartenSFS wrote:Not being rude helped. You posting videos helped me to understand where you are coming from. Some of these other clowns are just being obnoxious and have yet to offer any solid arguments for their positions, which I demand if they are going to dismiss my stuff. I think that kind of attitude is toxic. I'm not a turn the other cheek kind of person. I put a lot of work into this video and my training in general and I will not tolerate rude behaviour. I'm expecting common decency. Is that too much to ask?
Trick wrote:Finny wrote:the 'engetsu' effect the kuda yari they use creates is scary.
Engetsu - is that twisting the spear while thrusting?......Sorry to go off topic
GrahamB wrote:Looks like you're having a fun time to me Maarten. Keep at it!
(What's wrong with looking like "less formal kendo" anyway??)
I was watching a Dog Brothers video just now - that's messy as hell. Fighting looks like fighting.
Pandrews1982 wrote:Maarten,
I think with the right attitude you're going to do well and improve a lot, don't rise to the bait of trolls and get defensive. If there are valid points address them if someone is legitimately a troll just ignore them. It's difficult but I've had to learn to do it. I get lots of trolling all the time on my xing yi videos. Either I'm hurting people and it's too harsh on my partners or I'm not extreme enough and it wouldn't work on the street (still looking for this street with all the fighting happening on it...) so you'll never please anyone.
I think playing with a real live blade would be good for your practice. As I said try cutting a tatami with a t-shirt around it. Cut from different distances with different intent, different angles. See what actually works.
We assume that the hands are unprotected. Looking at historical armour, there is little protection provided to the hands. Sometime the brigandine of the Qing bannermen extended over the wrist for some protection but it's nothing like the European gauntlets. So yes hand is legitimate and a strike even if not a cut may be bad news. But it still has to have force in the strike.
I didn't say I would take a cut though. I don't particularly want to be cut at all. But if you put a sharp blade a couple of inches from me and I'm wearing a thick wool sweater and I say go on cut me without pulling back to swing I doubt there are many people who could do it. It's physics not skill. A drawing cut or a pushing cut might go through the cloth but then they are not likely to do a lot of damage. A straight hack would do nothing I bet. It's about understanding what the weapon is actually capable of. So I wouldn't say I'd stand and take a rain of blows going toe to toe (like in the dog brothers video) but there are situations where you can get in a position which would nullify the effectiveness of the weapon.
Also note that when you have a live blade and so does your partner then you become much more reserved and less wild swings because one mistake and you're dead. Those guys in the video doing sword and buckler also do sparring without protection using sharp swords and their sparring looks almost the same with and without sharps. I think it's good fencing and they always show good control.
As for Dog Brothers I don't particularly like a lot of it because they just carry on through multiple hits, hits which with heavy blades and no armour would do serious damage.
LaoDan wrote:I primarily agree with your evaluations of Maarten’s video, although I have less experience/skill, and our differing approaches make it difficult for me to comment on his video. Thanks for posting your insights.
Finny wrote:Who here has dismissed your stuff? Graham said it looked like less formal kendo - I agreed with him (as did a few others) - and you threw a tantrum.
The solid argument for my position - that you are hitting each other with padded sticks, not fighting with swords... is that you are hitting each other with padded sticks.GrahamB wrote:Looks like you're having a fun time to me Maarten. Keep at it!
(What's wrong with looking like "less formal kendo" anyway??)
Exactly what I said - don't be such an asshole Graham, haven't you been reading the thread?
Steve James wrote:I was on a court case recently. We saw a video of the victim being stabbed about 6 times. He was sitting there in court testifying --in a different leather coat. The knife thrusts at close range penetrated very little through his coat. He received 4 staples in his chest and two stitches in his hand. My point is that, imho, an experienced sword (or blade) user will cut-stab where there's no armor. Likewise, every experienced swordsperson in the past would be aiming to do the same thing. If both are similarly garbed and are wielding similar weapons, I would say their techniques will be similar.
wetmarble wrote:MaartenSFS wrote:Not being rude helped. You posting videos helped me to understand where you are coming from. Some of these other clowns are just being obnoxious and have yet to offer any solid arguments for their positions, which I demand if they are going to dismiss my stuff. I think that kind of attitude is toxic. I'm not a turn the other cheek kind of person. I put a lot of work into this video and my training in general and I will not tolerate rude behaviour. I'm expecting common decency. Is that too much to ask?
I find it exceedingly ironic that you speak about expecting common decency and not tolerating rude behavior, while simultaneously being rude and lacking common decency.
If you treat people with respect, you will often find that they return the favor to you.
MaartenSFS wrote:You then proceeded to say that it was a game and sarcastically said "Good luck with that." Rather rude, no?
Well, please show us your video where you are fighting with real swords, then. I can't wait to see it.
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