Torben Bremann: Chen style, Huang Taiji and Sam Tam

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Re: ATT: followers of Adam Mizner, Huang Taiji or Sam Tam

Postby xian89 on Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:17 am

An introduction video on standing meditation in Sam Tam's tradition: https://vimeo.com/226122186?ref=fb-share&1
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Re: ATT: followers of Adam Mizner, Huang Taiji or Sam Tam

Postby xian89 on Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:22 am

A clip from '94 of Torben and his late Chen style teacher, He Gong De, practicing form:

https://vimeo.com/228947806

Clips of Torben and his teachers trying to pass on the art feature in the ExploreTaiji program.
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Re: Torben Bremann: Chen style, Huang Taiji and Sam Tam

Postby Patrick on Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:30 am

The first exercise is called a Plie in ballet.
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Re: Torben Bremann: Chen style, Huang Taiji and Sam Tam

Postby wayne hansen on Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:05 pm

I am pretty sure one of the first books I had on Chen style was this teacher
I remember the wall behind hin because of the small bricks
His journey from Chen to yang would be interesting
The form looks very yang style
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Re: Torben Bremann: Chen style, Huang Taiji and Sam Tam

Postby xian89 on Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:45 am

Wayne: He never wrote any books - he was just one of those under the radar guys who just practiced the art sincerely for his own sake, and was lucky to meet some of the greats on his journey. He didn't really teach either, except Torben and some few other people.

Something completely different now from '05, when Torben was practicing Huang style taiji: https://vimeo.com/228944900
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Re: Torben Bremann: Chen style, Huang Taiji and Sam Tam

Postby wayne hansen on Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:27 pm

You are right I just found the book defiantly a different guy
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Re: Torben Bremann: Chen style, Huang Taiji and Sam Tam

Postby marvin8 on Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:11 am

Just adding a couple videos from another one of Torben's youtube channels, I stumbled acrosss.

Published on Apr 5, 2014

Jeppe and Torben during a training session with master Wu for some years ago in Taipei, Taiwan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh1YaP9sWLM

Published on Mar 23, 2014

Jeppe and Torben during a teaching session in Taiwan. Master Wu is teaching:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOTllwIt5OI
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Re: Torben Bremann: Chen style, Huang Taiji and Sam Tam

Postby xian89 on Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:13 am

Thanks Marvin - Torben may get Master Wu to do a workshop in Denmark in the near future. He is soft, soft, soft like piece of cloth at all times according to Torben

Torben has just posted an article on standing meditation with som impressions of it from both the Master Huang system og Taiji and with Sam Tam: https://exploringtaiji.com/standing-med ... an-zhuang/
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Re: Torben Bremann: Chen style, Huang Taiji and Sam Tam

Postby Franklin on Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:34 am

marvin8 wrote:Published on Mar 23, 2014

Jeppe and Torben during a teaching session in Taiwan. Master Wu is teaching:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOTllwIt5OI


do you know the guy translating (with the glasses)?
he looks and sounds just like one of my kung fu brothers I have't seen in years..
he doesn't by any chance live in Los Angeles? (or used to?)


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Re: Torben Bremann: Chen style, Huang Taiji and Sam Tam

Postby Appledog on Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:30 pm

This is not really Taijiquan though, it's coming from Huang's other work. You can tell because of how he talks about the intention of the frame. It's similar to other recent discussions of those sorts of frames on here.

Guys you have to remember, that just because it's slow and soft doesn't mean it is tai chi. Let me put it this way. If the difference isn't important (or apparent) to you, then don't complain about what I am saying. It's not an attack.

Based on a cursory glance at Huang's history this obviously comes from the White Crane end of the spectrum. I would have to take a second look to be sure but this exercise likely will harm your Tai Chi in the long run. Of course, it fits in very well with Huang's system which is probably the point; as a marketing ploy many masters will reframe or rephrase their system so that once you reach a certain level in it you can't learn from others without having to (almost) start over. It's quite brilliant actually, Huang is not the only master to have done this. But it looks like he did.

Wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot pole :/ truth is, I can't.
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Re: Torben Bremann: Chen style, Huang Taiji and Sam Tam

Postby wayne hansen on Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:24 pm

Towards the end of his life Huang was talking about starting a white crane school in New Zealand
I think he went back to his first love
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Re: Torben Bremann: Chen style, Huang Taiji and Sam Tam

Postby Giles on Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:43 am

Appledog wrote:This is not really Taijiquan though, it's coming from Huang's other work. You can tell because of how he talks about the intention of the frame. It's similar to other recent discussions of those sorts of frames on here.

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Wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot pole :/ truth is, I can't.


That’s an interesting statement; would you care to elaborate? I guess you’re not saying “it isn't Taijiquan” because of the demonstrated technique itself, but rather because of the body mechanics and/or strategy and/or whatever. So what’s your objection? Is it the feet-to-hands wave mechanic that you see as being part of White Crane and not compatible with Taijiquan? Or other things?

(My questions are certainly not meant ironically or sarcastically – I’m sincerely curious :) )
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Re: Torben Bremann: Chen style, Huang Taiji and Sam Tam

Postby xian89 on Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:29 am

http://munthe-kaas.dk/taiji-with-master-sam-tam-december-2017/

Blog post from a fellow student about his 1 month stay with Sam Tam. It contains 3 videos with Sam "playing" a little with him - few videos of Sam exist in public, so it is interesting to read for those alone.
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Re: Torben Bremann: Chen style, Huang Taiji and Sam Tam

Postby xian89 on Sat Apr 28, 2018 3:02 am



A rare video of Sam Tam playing around :)

EDIT: More videos

[youtube]https://youtu.be/cP3uAnKtiEg[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=93&v=2xOGdRQganY[/youtube]
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Re: Torben Bremann: Chen style, Huang Taiji and Sam Tam

Postby wayne hansen on Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:43 am

xian89 wrote:

A rare video of Sam Tam playing around :)


Playing around being the operative word
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