yeniseri wrote:Far from being a historian, butit is well known that the origins of taijiquan is actually Chen family style, which includes the synthesis of folk style of the era.
HotSoup wrote:You can easily broaden your question to something like, how much the ideas we all think are Taoist in origin are actually something specific to Taoism? Wuji, Yin-Yang, Wuxing, Bagua, TCM, etc. are all parts of Chinese culture. Conceptually, they likely had been existing long before anything that was later codified as "Taoism". They are utilized in Confucianism, Chan Buddhism, and what's called the "folk religion", as well. Guess, calling all this "Chinese" pays it more justice than "Taoist".
There is an opinion that asking a CIMA practitioner from the beginning of the nineteenth century whether his art was "Buddhist" or "Taoist" would make as much sense, as asking a medieval fence teacher whether his fencing was "Catholic" or, say, "Juwish".
Now, you can have another question, which I think is way more thought-provoking. How much the fact that some CMA got associated with Taoism by common public since the middle of the nineteenth century actually has affected the way those arts have been practices and taught from then on?
Steve James wrote:Well, the origins of taoism ... have nothing to do with the origins of what's called taijiquan.
Steve James wrote:I didn't say I knew either. I'm saying that their origins aren't connected.
The Chen's didn't invent "taichi" (the concept) or Taoism (the philosophy) or Chinese folk religion.
Bao wrote:[ Other things called Daoism as some of the numerology associated with Daoism was probably invented by Jesuits in China.
Trick wrote:Bao wrote:[ Other things called Daoism as some of the numerology associated with Daoism was probably invented by Jesuits in China.
Interesting, can you elaborate a little on that
warriorprincess wrote:The Taoist connection I heard, again from my friend, was encouraged by the hippies in the 60's & 70's.
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