grzegorz wrote:
grzegorz wrote:
aamc wrote:I'm going to de-rail this thread slightly. I've been wrestling with the following comments.
What was the point of this meeting, really?
Trump and Kim turn up, Kim signs a flimsy document saying something about removing nuclear weapons in the region. Nothing concrete, something suitable flimsy. Trump says the war games will stop. Which as a side note, I don't believe a bit.
So in summary:
Flimsy document with next to no substance.
Concession to North Korea demands, in word only.
So why did this summit even take place? What a waste of money for the US. Sending the President, in Airforce one, along with the supporting aircraft, staff and resources. For a meeting that didn't deliver anything except a possible concession. you right war would have been better, no more talking
This is just pure theatre, Trump the nuclear brinksman, rushing off to save the world. Hell he even abandoned the hard stuff at the G7 summit. Kim as well, he returns the champion, bringing the US to the table. The peace maker, the champion of NK, see how nuclear weapons brings the US to the table.
Yep once they accomplished the objective of being able to reach the US with an ICBM just ignore it, this seems to have worked well in the last 8 yrs.
Just nonsense... Spectacle and no substance.
This is just pure theatre
aamc wrote:All fair points:
"your right war would have been better, no more talking"
Oh and where did that come from? Being your own hype man on twitter.
As for talking... Can you show me the plan for what happens next? What are steps are NK/SK and US going to carry out? What mechanisms are there going to be show each side is keeping to their side of the bargain. Which department is tasked with this? Can some show me the details...
this aspect has already been outlined
"Yep once they accomplished the objective of being able to reach the US with an ICBM just ignore it, this seems to have worked well in the last 8 yrs."
Well it seems that for the last 30 years, North Korea has been talking promising that it would not develop nuclear weapons and then did it anyway:
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/09/asia ... index.html
quite correct because of no credible consequence that would have stopped them until now
My understanding is that NK were always going to develop nuclear, they've got a standing army of 3M soldiers, that's a vast drain on the countries bank balance. Nuclear weapons mitigates any invasion. So it allows you to reduce your army forces and get those people back into work. Now, well they've got their end goal, no one is going to invade and they can then start fixing their economy. If I knew this strategy I'm sure everyone in the region knew this. So my guess is that there were no good options and this.. Well, circuses..
The pageantry and spectacle surrounding the first meeting between a U.S. president and a leader of North Korea’s autocratic regime also obscured the fact that the North Koreans agreed to little in the way of specific or tangible concessions. Although Kim said he was committed to the “complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula,” the joint statement between the two leaders included no timetable for when or how North Korea would reveal, destroy and allow verification of its nuclear arsenal.
Harry Kazianis, the director of defense studies at the Center for the National Interest, described the Singapore extravaganza as “21st-century diplomacy” with a Trumpian twist.
aamc wrote:I'm going to de-rail this thread slightly. I've been wrestling with the following comments.
What was the point of this meeting, really?
Trump and Kim turn up, Kim signs a flimsy document saying something about removing nuclear weapons in the region. Nothing concrete, something suitable flimsy. Trump says the war games will stop. Which as a side note, I don't believe a bit.
So in summary:
Flimsy document with next to no substance.
Concession to North Korea demands, in word only.
So why did this summit even take place? What a waste of money for the US. Sending the President, in Airforce one, along with the supporting aircraft, staff and resources. For a meeting that didn't deliver anything except a possible concession.
This is just pure theatre, Trump the nuclear brinksman, rushing off to save the world. Hell he even abandoned the hard stuff at the G7 summit. Kim as well, he returns the champion, bringing the US to the table. The peace maker, the champion of NK, see how nuclear weapons brings the US to the table.
Just nonsense... Spectacle and no substance.
When all it takes is for two assholes to sit down and agree on a few things by giving each other big face instead of sending the working class's youth to war it speaks volumes to how unnecessary war usually is.
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