wayne hansen wrote:It shows how little you understand about tai chi
origami_itto wrote:Well it kind of is and it isn't, right?
I mean, right off the top, we get "stand like a scale, move like a wheel" and as I previously mentioned, those are both applications of the simple machine "the lever".
立如枰凖。活似車輪。偏沈則隨。
Stand like a scale, look like a wheel, lean, sink, follow.
origami_itto wrote:I don't believe that anybody alive has perfect understanding of the intricacies of the system.
I think that sharing our perspective and understanding is more helpful in increasing understanding for everyone than simply dismissing others as ignorant, but that's just me.
robert wrote:origami_itto wrote:Well it kind of is and it isn't, right?
I mean, right off the top, we get "stand like a scale, move like a wheel" and as I previously mentioned, those are both applications of the simple machine "the lever".
I think so, since a balance scale has a pivoted horizontal lever. That makes it a little confusing to discuss. The Chinese in The Taijiquan Treatise is interesting.立如枰凖。活似車輪。偏沈則隨。
Stand like a scale, look like a wheel, lean, sink, follow.
But scale isn't scale, it's 枰凖 - a level chessboard. Check out the character for level - 凖. That's brilliant.
Do you know the experience of this image? Actually is the center, He completes a measurement value. So as when you practicing, every time in your training each of your postures, you see! Always said…Say what this sentence that is “FORCE LEVELING SYSTEM”.
What is LEVELING?
That is Scales, in each movement is the scale moving. What is shifting? Shift our body center point, look at this when I move, What is the actual? Look! Sinking shoulder and elbow.....shoulder and elbow. Balance on the center of gravity, you still flexible....still can flexible. It flow from where?
This process could be thought of like a game of "chess" ie positioning to gain the best advantage.
This shoulder flowing, to the other shoulder. After finish flowing look at this time postured, it’s ready! Now INTENTION, QI... is the key point. So now when an action is done, what’s we add in?
As everyone said we must “EXTERNAL THREE COOPERATION”. Shoulder and waist, Hand and foot, elbow and knee,
after placed, the “EXTERNAL THREE COOPERATION” Cooperated.
When you release it, it will be "INNER THREE COOPERATION”
You do every action the same, Look at it.... come back! Every action is the same, you see! Actually it is here start transform, you see coming here later. Look, his pushed over here, Up to this step, transform now. Transformed, transform to upper part, this hand (Left) is fixed.
If you reach here still keep pushing (Left) then this is “HARD HAND”. Therefore, it is "YANG" (Positive) move and "YIN" static, Remember this main point. YANG move, YIN is static. In our push hands it mean like this too. In our push hands it mean like this too YANG move, YIN is static.
Everyone watching, so when this hand is covered, it is “static”.
Don't use it to push! When I want to hit him it’s my YI, QI. YI, QI! YI, QI. Don't mind him, your finger...
When your finger touched him, you look at your own finger. You look at your fingers and like your lips self-merging, where got so many word!
you look at your own finger. You look at your fingers and like your lips self-merging, where got so many word!
wayne hansen wrote:those arts are about leverage
Tai chi is not
wayne hansen wrote:It says stand like a scale not move like one or operate like a scale
Move like a wheel
Says it all
robert wrote:Here is a fairly literal translation of the Chinese.
採勁義何解。
Cai (to pluck) jin means how to split/break.
如權之引衡。
As if extending a weight to measure.
任你力巨細。
It doesn't matter to you if the force is large or small.
權後知輕重。
Your back is aware if it is light or heavy.
轉移祗四兩。
Shift four ounces.
千斤亦可平。
Able to level (balance) a thousand pounds.
若問理何在。
Investigate the principle of where.
幹捍之作用。
The function is to ward off/defend.
wayne hansen wrote:It says stand like a scale not move like one or operate like a scale
Move like a wheel
Says it all
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