wayne hansen wrote:However I classify ICMA by their Shen Fa body mechanics and only the 3 mentioned are part of that group
Not all of those teaching under that banner follow the criteria that makes them brothers
[...] I remember 40 odd years ago when I left one teacher to follow a more pure path my first teacher took you had to use some hardness to make these arts work
I told him if that was true they were not the art I wanted
The path I took had more depth and reward than I ever thought possible
leewanwang wrote:how many styles would be on a comprehensive list of extant Chinese Internal Martial Arts styles? What would those styles be?
wayne hansen wrote:I no longer know what is soft and what is hard
Soft things I deliver feel hard to others
People being soft on me feel hard
All arts contain internal some more than others
I have been taking a senior student thru the basic tai chi pole form
He has the basic form and flow but small corners he is missing are the key to the next door he must open
When I showed him what he was missing it was so simple but he was dumbfounded
I have spent every day since devising moves to put in the form to get him to another place
These moves will be thrown away once he learns their lesson
Like him I could show others in person but it is hard to explain in words
Bhassler wrote:Here's a scholarly look at the history of the term: https://nysanda.wordpress.com/2016/03/2 ... l-nei-jia/
In short, it's marketing and propaganda, and doesn't mean anything.
Hu was not really able to let go of his xingyi.
He was already a great master, and thus it was very difficult to "throw it out the window".
Zhang kept telling Hu that his jin (internal energy) was wrong - it was a xingyi type, not a taiji type of energy.
Hu said that there was nothing he could do because he had been practicing that way for so long.
was able to let go of his xingyi it would be quite difficult to teach him Yangjia Michuan Taijiquan.
wayne hansen wrote:White crane has some good noi gung
As for the needle in cotton set being similar to tai chi that is a bit of a stretch
In this video my Sifu and friend, the late Ron Dong, demonstrates the Cotton Needle Set.
Posted at his request, the video shows the full set from the front and back.
Sifu Ron Dong passed away in January of 2021 in San Francisco CA.
This is a gift to all students of the martial-arts. It represents only the smallest fraction of the knowledge and history that we have lost.
windwalker wrote:wayne hansen wrote:White crane has some good noi gung
As for the needle in cotton set being similar to tai chi that is a bit of a stretch
and that's it, your final comment...
leave to others to see or not the similarities...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiPrJzWwr_Q
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