RobP3 wrote:marvin8 wrote:No. I mean my gif from both 4:53 – 4:55 and 5:29 – 5:35. Starting at 5:29, you do not "pause and talk to the camera." Anyways,"pausing and talking to the camera" is irrelevant. It's what you and the attacker do before that.
4.53 I'm talking to the cameras as I do the movement, I even step towards the camera
5.29 I'm talking to the camera as I do the movement
RobP3 wrote:In both cases I'm working slow, for the reasons described before - the universal method of showing something for the first time to explain it.
RobP3 wrote:marvin8 wrote:What prevents the "resistant" attacker from "responding" by moving/turning while you level change? It seems to disregard the principle for every action there is a reaction.
Nothing when I'm demonstrating and talking about what I'm doing. But when applied in real time, speed, timing, hitting him as I move, etc. At speed, what time doe he have to respond, if he doesn't know what I am going to do? And if he does, I respond with him.
RobP3 wrote:Could Jay do any or some of the things on your list? Probably. At this stage, though, why would he?
RobP3 wrote:I don't really like the word resistance in training I prefer to think of things as being active. So I'm working against an active partner or person… but as you go up that cooperation can decrease it doesn't necessarily mean that the person is just offering resistance because that implies to me like just tension a sort of static tension but if the person is responding to what I'm doing then that's a much better way to test something but not a technique…
Whether the problem is a nail or not we have a range of options and of course a lot of those options are built around our ability to move. In order to cultivate that ability to move, we have to understand tension in ourselves. Then to work against an alive person or an active person, we have to understand tension in the other person because resistance most often comes through tension. So let's take a look at a couple of ideas of how we can work around resistance.
RobP3 wrote:Had some interesting PM's on this, thanks chaps.
Bhassler wrote:@RobP3
I'm no expert, but I think you should have worn cammo pants and done a somersault, so the internet would know you were doing Systema.
Other than that, I liked the "sparring" video. I think of that kind of asymmetrical situational work as scenario training, and sparring as symetrical/technical work, but it's good stuff, regardless of what you call it. Along with intelligent use of drills, I think that's one of the best parts of Systema. And also cammo pants.
RobP3 wrote:marvin8 wrote:Before looking at the camera you make 2 moves: 1. bend over 2. step to the right side with your right foot.
The difference between 1:30 and 4:53 movements is distance/space and reaction time. When an attacker does a two hand grab, they are closer, can feel any changes and respond (e.g, headbutt, choke, etc.) much faster to their opponent. Fast reaction times will only do so much. To have good timing, you need to predict (or prevent) your attacker’s position and movement in advance.
So now we are into forensic analysis of a technique that I'm not even doing. I don't how else to explain it. What I'm doing there is simply illustrating a basic principle of not working directly against resistance, using movement.
RobP3 wrote:Jay is not responding at that stage because he understood what was going on, which you don't seem to be able to.
RobP3 wrote:Bhassler wrote:@RobP3
I'm no expert, but I think you should have worn cammo pants and done a somersault, so the internet would know you were doing Systema.
Other than that, I liked the "sparring" video. I think of that kind of asymmetrical situational work as scenario training, and sparring as symetrical/technical work, but it's good stuff, regardless of what you call it. Along with intelligent use of drills, I think that's one of the best parts of Systema. And also cammo pants.
RobP3 wrote:But you are mischaracterising what you are commenting on
Doc Stier wrote:Perhaps you could better illustrate your ongoing critique by producing your own video, not clips of boxers or MMA fighters, in which YOU show how the subject matter is better demonstrated.
marvin8 wrote:Doc Stier wrote:Perhaps you could better illustrate your ongoing critique by producing your own video, not clips of boxers or MMA fighters, in which YOU show how the subject matter is better demonstrated.
I've already presented another Systema Instructor's video, which anyone can compare with the "principles."
Doc Stier wrote:marvin8 wrote:Doc Stier wrote:Perhaps you could better illustrate your ongoing critique by producing your own video, not clips of boxers or MMA fighters, in which YOU show how the subject matter is better demonstrated.
I've already presented another Systema Instructor's video, which anyone can compare with the "principles."
With all due respect for your comments, I'm beginning to think you're totally tone deaf. I asked for a video of YOU personally demonstrating what you believe to be a better illustration of the subject matter, not a clip of someone else's performance.
marvin8 wrote:RobP3 wrote:But you are mischaracterising what you are commenting on
I don't believe so. But, in what way?
RobP3 wrote:marvin8 wrote:RobP3 wrote:But you are mischaracterising what you are commenting on
I don't believe so. But, in what way?
In the way I've been explaining for the last page or so
If the clip was entitled "How to escape a grab" and stopped after five minutes or so, you might have a point. It doesn't and you don't.
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