nicklinjm wrote:Have had some exposure to the water taiji people in HK, the better ones can really demonstrate how real taiji jin can 'cut through' or not be affected by the power of the opponent.
Personally I think the water taiji founder (Wang Zhuang-hong) just made explicit certain power principles in Yang style taiji - the points, lines and waves. Byron Zhang is also pretty good IMHO.
Windwalker - do you find some commonalities between your Old Six Roads and what the water taiji folks do?
windwalker wrote:nicklinjm wrote:Byron Zhang is also pretty good IMHO.
Byron, good friend of mine, we used to push and practice together. Many discussions on taiji theory and applications
Bryon, used to invite me over to their class for some informal pushing, allowing the students to feel something a little different.
Found the water style to be quite similar in the theory aspects. although different in the physicality of it.
Bao wrote:Can't find much about this "Water Taiji". But I find the name a rather absurd. It's a tautology, "water" is redundant to say the least. All Taiji is "water". if I just saw an ad or book with "Water Taiji" or "Water style Taiji" without knowing more about its background I would have a very hard time to take it seriously.
"Bao" wrote
I think understand is meant by "different in the physicality", Byron's body method is more of a traditional "yang" method. He seems to move, and generate his movements, with his whole body together. No special part seems to be storing, powering or generating strength. But of course, I could be wrong.
Master Garry Lam is a first-generation successor of Wang Style Water Tai Chi, the Great Grandmaster Wang Zhuanhong(王壯弘). Master Lam started studying martial arts ,the Northern Shaolin, under Grandmaster Yang Shangwu(嚴尚武),who learned from Grandmaster Ku Yu Cheung(顧汝章).
Master Lam has coached for martial art competitions for many years in Asia. In 1991, Master Gary Lam began studying Wang Water Tai Chi with Grand Master Wang Zhuanghong(王壯弘).After many years, he truly grasped the essence of Wang Water Tai Chi. After Master Lam immigrated to the United States, he continued promoting martial arts and teaching tai chi chuan for more than 20 years in US.
windwalker wrote:"Hard to take it seriously,,"
Others like the founder might "take it seriously"
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkH9JNBM6Jg&t=299s
王壮弘 水性太极拳
Bao wrote:Lam shows some good qualities IMHO, again close to some Liuhebafa.
And again, some of it close to what I do.
windwalker wrote:How would anyone judge what you do vs what he does...."show's"
Bao wrote:windwalker wrote:How would anyone judge what you do vs what he does...."show's"
How could anyone judge that you can do what you claim you can do?
I couldn't care less about what you or anyone else hear "judge" what I say. I saw something I thought was interesting and commented it. If someone is interested in what I do, they can come and meet me. Several people has read what I write in forums and on my blog and have either met me while they were around my place or made a trip to meet me. This is a discussion board FFS, you are meant to discuss and share your thoughts and ideas. If you are not interested you can STFU or you can try to argue, it's all up to you.
But htf would you be able to judge someone without meeting up with them?
...Oh my...
watertaichistudent wrote:HI all,
Any one is interested in Water Taichi taught by Master Gary Lam may visit https://wangwatertaichi.com and checkout https://www.youtube.com/@wangwatertaichi6997
Master Lam learned from Master Zhuanghong Wang. Master Wang named his Taichi style as "Water Tai Chi" -- "王式水性太极“ in Chinese.
Master Lam is teaching in Fremont CA.
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