Trick wrote:cant see the OP video, so no real idea of his Pi-quan square method.
Xingyiquan Pi-quan and the following elements are worked through the santi-stance,if not XYQ pi-quan lose its function and is not XYQ...
Trick wrote:i have some difficulty understanding your language, but then im swedish living in China, prabably the reason.
when one is ready for pi-quan practice one has done santi practice for some time beforehand and by so be perfectly ready. the five elements are about understanding the opposing forces in front of you and timingly moving as in stepping into those forces, the front leg/knee is part of reading those opposing forces,
standing in wuji stance doing upper body moves might be good for just health and probably suited for those with weak/injured knees..
nicklinjm wrote:The problem with this particular square version is the student will probably never get the correct coordination of the kua. The drawback should be the kua drawing the hand back, and on the Pi there should be a v strong forward snap of the kua. YMMV, IMHO etc.
Bao wrote:In The Taijiquan the standard method of moving and coordinating the body is what other arts would consider advanced method. The beginner is thrown into something quite hard to do. So I can see a value of breaking up movements and "isolating body parts" as a square form. I still don't think it helps a lot or, that it's a very good practice, as it's quite different from doing a standard form "correctly". But I guess there's a value as it helps students to get a feeling of postures without having to put everything together at once. But I have a hard time seeing any benefit trying to do the same with xingyiquan. Xingyi is already clear and well structured for beginners. The first stage is "ming", it's evident. Evident movements, evident power. Everything is done precise and clear. It's first in later stages the movements flow and becomes less evident and more "circular" (connected). So why try to fix something that isn't broken? It makes no sense.
Bao wrote:In The Taijiquan the standard method of moving and coordinating the body is what other arts would consider advanced method. The beginner is thrown into something quite hard to do. So I can see a value of breaking up movements and "isolating body parts" as a square form. I still don't think it helps a lot or, that it's a very good practice, as it's quite different from doing a standard form "correctly". But I guess there's a value as it helps students to get a feeling of postures without having to put everything together at once. But I have a hard time seeing any benefit trying to do the same with xingyiquan. Xingyi is already clear and well structured for beginners. The first stage is "ming", it's evident. Evident movements, evident power. Everything is done precise and clear. It's first in later stages the movements flow and becomes less evident and more "circular" (connected). So why try to fix something that isn't broken? It makes no sense.
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