beegs wrote:"His favorite weapon, a metal ball which he could throw from his hand..."
"The village leader saw his predicament and shot out a metal ball at Li Laonong, but Li reached out his hand, caught the metal ball, and sent it back where it came from. The metal ball hit the village leader's left ear and knocked him down.
...sounds better...no?
sounds better for sure, but do you think if someone threw a rock at you full speed you would catch it, let alone a metal ball?
"not flaming, just askin true opinion"Brother it is about time you put some of your teachers research on here, since it conflicts so much with everyone else's.
Jon.
jon, history has this thing about it that makes alot of the arguing useless, we can all have opinions and i rarely have gotten offended by anyone elses opinions on history or the arts, etc. so i hope nobody else gets offended at my views. I do nopt believe in parts of the history, such as someone who while waiting to climb a mountain seen the animals fighting and came up with the ten animal forms, i believe that was long after animal forms were already established yet the newer guys changed them, etc. i do not discount most of the stuff you post in articles, only small pieces i dont buy into.
i dont have solid proof of anything more than anyone else does. you kn ow in shanxi che guys and dai guys have conflicting stories, etc, so nobody has the "proof" so why cant i have a different view on some stuff? again, i dont speak for my teacher, nor does he have anything to do with me not believeing certain parts of the articles,
your articles are great, i just dont buy into the fable type parts of it, and hell i may be wrong, but again, its just an opinion. hope you were never offended by anything as i do appreciate the reading.
as a side note, you have stated over and over how hard your teacher worked to attain dantien in only a few years, do you think li could have a deep understanding of the art in one year from dai just showing him a few movements and no weekly or monthly lessons? and would that be a record to this day for anyone else to ever have attained a deep understanding in one year?
beegs wrote:"His favorite weapon, a metal ball which he could throw from his hand..."
"The village leader saw his predicament and shot out a metal ball at Li Laonong, but Li reached out his hand, caught the metal ball, and sent it back where it came from. The metal ball hit the village leader's left ear and knocked him down.
...sounds better...no?
sounds better for sure, but do you think if someone threw a rock at you full speed you would catch it, let alone a metal ball?
"not flaming, just askin true opinion"
Tom wrote:Ian wrote:[snip]
And also the bit about a stairway made of throwing knives.
Old Farmer Li clearly trained with Vlad and the Spetsnaz.
Dai Zhi Qiang wrote:In 1856, when Li was living in Qi County near Taigu, he accepted his first disciple, Che Yonghong. Then came Song Shirong, Song Shide, Li Guangxiang, and He Yunheng. In Hebei, his students were Guo Yunshen, Liu Qilan, Zhang Shude, Liu Xiaolan, Li Jingzhai, and Liu Yuanheng. In Jiangsu, there was Bai Xiyuan and in Yunnan, there was Meng Laorong. The Xingyi style was not limited to just one location. Schools sprung up like bamboo shoots, each one striving for excellence, until Xingyi had spread everywhere, with each school developing its own characteristics.
I-mon wrote:Dai Zhi Qiang wrote:In 1856, when Li was living in Qi County near Taigu, he accepted his first disciple, Che Yonghong. Then came Song Shirong, Song Shide, Li Guangxiang, and He Yunheng. In Hebei, his students were Guo Yunshen, Liu Qilan, Zhang Shude, Liu Xiaolan, Li Jingzhai, and Liu Yuanheng. In Jiangsu, there was Bai Xiyuan and in Yunnan, there was Meng Laorong. The Xingyi style was not limited to just one location. Schools sprung up like bamboo shoots, each one striving for excellence, until Xingyi had spread everywhere, with each school developing its own characteristics.
this is interesting - is there anything left of Yunnan or Jiangsu Xingyiquan?
it's also cool to think that the guy who made xingyiquan was a skilled practitioner of tongbeiquan.
thanks for posting all these articles jon.
Part I
Li Laonong, also called Li Nengran, was born in 1807 and died in 1888 at the age of 81. He was born in Shen County in the province of Hebei. As a young man he was naturally good at martial arts. He excelled in the arts of Tongbei and Gongli Quan.
if he wanted all the same, he would have taught all the same
so by playing with a cup of tea, that was enough to say"hey we must untite these arts"
these stories are what make mma guys laugh at gong fu
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