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Tai Chi Foundations - Community Built Online Training

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:59 am
by Kelley Graham
I put this here as a resource, but will move if this isn't an appropriate topic for this section. I have domain name - https://taichifoundations.com - that i would like to contribute to the Chinese Internal Martial Arts community. RSF members have a terrific depth of knowledge and we have many great archived discussions. I propose that we collect that material and turn it into open online curriculum to promote better understanding and practice. I can provide editorial, tech resources and overall project coordination, members build the curriculum. https://train.sifuondemand.com/course/view.php?id=6 It's a moodle site under Sifu On Demand for development. When appropriate, it can be moved to it's own dedicated training site. (EDIT: Enabled guest access to view the outline)

Re: Tai Chi Foundations - Community Built Online Training

PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:08 am
by Kelley Graham
if there's no interest in this project i will remove and move on to another approach.

Re: Tai Chi Foundations - Community Built Online Training

PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:05 pm
by GrahamB
Do you think you can explain it as if I was a 5 year old? I can't get it from what you wrote + jargon.

Re: Tai Chi Foundations - Community Built Online Training

PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:34 pm
by Quigga
I can see it working, it would take some dedication and old discussions would flare up with renewed passion...

Organsing the archives would mean dividing the wealth of knowledge in different sub-categories. Participating members would need to give their opinion in at least monthly intervals to achieve something fruitfull over the span of 3 years.

Sort of like an IMA wikipedia with actual fact checks and names as well as faces behind claims and theories...

The question would be where to start. At the beginning, I guess :D

So what should the curriculum be? Everything we agree and disagree on... Different names for the same things...

At least, I think it would be a tremendous waste to let our treasures stagnate...

Let the lotus rise from the bottom and blossom on the water's surface <3

Re: Tai Chi Foundations - Community Built Online Training

PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:36 pm
by Kelley Graham
GrahamB wrote:Do you think you can explain it as if I was a 5 year old? I can't get it from what you wrote + jargon.


To clarify:

1) Gather rsf posts and discussions and make open online CIMA curriculum for beginners. “Well begun, half done”
2) I provide the place people go to learn. https://taichifoundations.com
3) I have a suggested starting outline already in place if you follow the link in the OP
4) While under development, the site is hosted on my existing learning site. When the site is ready, I will move it to a dedicated site.
5) Our community can make it anything we want. I’m willing to provide project management and editorial support.
6) RSF benefits by increasing visibility and the CIMA community benefits by having a place where newbies can get trusted info.
7) We all benefit by sharing our best stuff and building something.
8) Maybe we will reduce charlatans and posers ability to ruin potential good students.

Re: Tai Chi Foundations - Community Built Online Training

PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:41 pm
by Kelley Graham
Quigga wrote:I can see it working, it would take some dedication and old discussions would flare up with renewed passion...

Organsing the archives would mean dividing the wealth of knowledge in different sub-categories. Participating members would need to give their opinion in at least monthly intervals to achieve something fruitfull over the span of 3 years.

Sort of like an IMA wikipedia with actual fact checks and names as well as faces behind claims and theories...

The question would be where to start. At the beginning, I guess :D

So what should the curriculum be? Everything we agree and disagree on... Different names for the same things...

At least, I think it would be a tremendous waste to let our treasures stagnate...

Let the lotus rise from the bottom and blossom on the water's surface <3


I provided an outline that I have used in teaching. Follow the second link in the OP. We should start with the basics for newbies and then see where that leads.

Re: Tai Chi Foundations - Community Built Online Training

PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:56 am
by GrahamB
My curriculum is simple:

Year 1. Horse stance. 1 hour a day.

Year 2. More horse stance.

Year 3. You complaining? Sounds like somebody needs to learn more horse stance.

Year 4 onwards. Secret stuff.

Re: Tai Chi Foundations - Community Built Online Training

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:34 am
by Quigga
Maybe eating bitter via horse stance would make the pain you're exposed to later on easier to withstand. Besides building a solid foundation for your psyche to rest upon.

Thank you for providing your skills and resources Kelly. I will gladly dig through the archives once more.

Re: Tai Chi Foundations - Community Built Online Training

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:44 pm
by LaoDan
The outline seems like it will match your stated goal:
“Students learn the cultural context of Chinese Internal Martial Arts...”

While this course would lead to more intellectual knowledge, I am not certain how it will “lead to more authentic training experiences and better training results.” There seems to be little information applicable to actual physical training in the outline. Do you intend to include this more in the video lessons? While much in the outline sounds interesting (and I only have knowledge about some parts), I am not clear how learning this information (philosophy, history and tradition) would improve my personal practice. But I do not want to sound discouraging since it does sound interesting.

Re: Tai Chi Foundations - Community Built Online Training

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:44 pm
by Kelley Graham
I have received permission to use my existing audio materials to start this off. ( i have a student who is a historian and has an excellent voice. ) the academic materials were presented following the outline. each class I introduced a tai chi chuan beginners' drill that fit with the topic under consideration. i would open it all up to the community to add a variety of physical practices. i'll put together the audio lessons over the next few weeks and we'll see what comes of it.

Re: Tai Chi Foundations - Community Built Online Training

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:35 pm
by everything
really like the idea. sorry, not qualified to teach, but happy to ask some questions as a would be student.

Re: Tai Chi Foundations - Community Built Online Training

PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:42 am
by Kelley Graham
i've made a nice widget to help transcribe and index media. https://transcribe.taichifoundations.com Theres no need format your file unless you know Markdown. Send me the files and any other info i might need. The widget does a pretty good job without any extra fussing. let me know if you have tech issue AFTER your read the manual and help files. :) [RTFM]