johnwang wrote:What do you think the similarity between long fist and Taiji? Your thought?
My thoughts align with what has been written...
汪永泉授楊式太極拳語錄及拳照
Wang Yongquan Writings on Yang Style Tai Chi Chuan
]一般理解,所謂勁兒,是把本身的神、意、氣集中到一點上,再把這個點運用到某個姿勢上
去。經過長期的鍛煉以後,就會逐漸擴大增長起來,變成一種力。這種力是經過鍛煉取得的,
是後天之拙力。這種力形式大、動量滯、變換遲、動的去路直,在技擊方面用起來,因身形動
作大,運動量較強,因此影響內氣的波動,易於浮躁。這近於長拳的練法和要求。
google translate
It is generally understood that the so-called jin refers to concentrating one's own spirit, intention, and qi on one point, and then applying this point to a certain posture.
After long-term exercise, it will gradually expand and grow, becoming a kind of force.
This kind of power is acquired through training, and it is an acquired clumsy power.
This kind of force has a large form, sluggish momentum, slow transformation, and straight movement.
It is used in martial arts. Because of the large body shape and strong movement,
it affects the fluctuation of internal qi and is easy to be impetuous.
This is close to the practice and requirements of Changquan
初練太極拳的人覺得太極拳的練法與上面的練法相似,其實不然。如果按照太極拳的理論要求
,經過一段時間的鍛煉,逐漸把理論與姿勢結合起來,就會很明顯地感覺出來,上面的練法和
要求是與太極拳不同的。練習太極拳的要求,是把本身的神、意、氣化合歸一,融合在一起,
形成一種輕靈圓活之勁兒。這種勁兒是以氣、意混之為主。它的本質是氣,對它的要求是空、
虛、散,而不是集聚的。這就是太極勁兒,又叫做先天勁兒。
google translate
People who are new to Taijiquan think that the practice of Taijiquan is similar to the above practice, but it is not.
If you follow the theoretical requirements of Taijiquan, after a period of training, and gradually combine the theory with posture, you will clearly feel that the above practice methods and requirements are different from Taijiquan.
The requirement of practicing Taijiquan is to unify and integrate one's own spirit, mind and qi into one, forming a kind of light, round and lively energy.
This kind of energy is mainly based on the mixture of qi and meaning.
Its essence is qi, and its requirements are emptiness, emptiness, and dispersal, rather than gathering. This is Tai Chi strength, also known as innate strength
Even if some movements may "look" similar they are based on a different idea, developing different skill sets...
Others may find different...
Many CMA teachers teach taiji as an adjunct to their main syllabus what ever it may be....
In some cases what then happens in so doing, there comes a time where they or others may not find there is not much differences between it and their main style....
In most cases because of the focus of taiji the practice tends to enhance any other art while the revers is not necessarily true,
even historically among noted teachers...
just completed a 5yr study of this.
Concluding in my own path indeed, the differences of what might be called the deeper levels could not be overcome....
for a variety of reasons.
My thoughts, my experience.