Trip wrote:Also, I believe Feng Zhiqiang makes references to shaking too but I can't remember where or how detailed the references were.
AN ANECDOTE ABOUT [THE SPEAR SKILL OF] YANG LUCHAN
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Yang, using intention to move energy, gave his spear a shake and the friend rose up onto the roof. The man was amazed and stood there the way a simpleton leans forward. Yang laughed, calling for a step ladder to be brought.
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wayne hansen wrote:I have said many times
Tai chi is passed on literally from hand to hand
If your teacher has not got it neither will you
If you don't have it you can't guess what it is
wayne hansen wrote:I have said many times
Tai chi is passed on literally from hand to hand
If your teacher has not got it neither will you
If you don't have it you can't guess what it is
johnwang wrote:... Why do you want to shake your opponent? You don't want him to generate speed and power during the initial stage. When you throw a right punch at me, if I can push on your right shoulder, even 4 oz force can stop your punch.
johnwang wrote:Steve James wrote:it's the exact opposite of tjq theory.
The major missing part of the Taiji theory is "give before take". You attack me. I step to the side. You fall off the cliff. How often can that happen? Without giving and just want to take is not realistic. I don't like Taiji principle "if you don't move, I won't move." I like the principle, "I make you move, I then take advantage on your respond."
You are talking about when your opponent has generate speed and power. I'm talking about before your opponent has generated speed and power. ...
One time a boxer challenged me. He ran toward me and tried to knock my head off. I raised my leg and he ran into my front kick with 2 broken ribs. That was force against force.
oragami_itto wrote:johnwang wrote:- You move toward me, I give you a quick push.
- You move away from me, I give you a quick pull.
- You try to raise up, I give you a quick downward pull.
- You try to sink, I give you an quick elbow lift.
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It's not force against force because you apply shaking during the initial stage when your opponent tries to generate power and speed.
It's still "force against force" but just your larger, old force against their smaller, new force.
Steve James wrote:But, I'm not sure John W meant this kind of shake.
marvin8 wrote:Do you have a clip of "stopping a right punch by pushing on right shoulder?
johnwang wrote:marvin8 wrote:Do you have a clip of "stopping a right punch by pushing on right shoulder?
A: Do you have a clip of ...?
B: I have over 1000 clips on my computer.
A: But those clips are demo/training clip. Those are not fighting clip.
B:
I'm not sure what you mean by this kind of shake?
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