Taijiquan vs Punching and Kicking

Discussion on the three big Chinese internals, Yiquan, Bajiquan, Piguazhang and other similar styles.

Re: Taijiquan vs Punching and Kicking

Postby blacksheep on Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:20 am

Dmitri wrote:
blacksheep wrote:it seems the kung fu school down the street don't seem to be very impressed with taiji

That's probably because 95% of taiji out there is watered-down BS taught by people who don't understand the art themselves.


interesting could you provide me with a link to youtube of someone who you think is not watered down?
there was a link a couple pages back, is this it?
i tried to write this guy but it seens he's not on this site no more
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Re: Taijiquan vs Punching and Kicking

Postby Josealb on Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:24 am

Sheep, how old are you?
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Re: Taijiquan vs Punching and Kicking

Postby blacksheep on Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:27 am

Josealb wrote:Sheep, how old are you?


45 why is it to late for me?
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Re: Taijiquan vs Punching and Kicking

Postby Josealb on Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:37 am

Nah, man. Just asking.

Ask around and see if there are any good taiji guys near you. You could see some in youtube, but its really something that has to be felt.
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Re: Taijiquan vs Punching and Kicking

Postby cloudz on Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:39 am

blacksheep wrote:
Dmitri wrote:
blacksheep wrote:it seems the kung fu school down the street don't seem to be very impressed with taiji

That's probably because 95% of taiji out there is watered-down BS taught by people who don't understand the art themselves.


interesting could you provide me with a link to youtube of someone who you think is not watered down?
there was a link a couple pages back, is this it?
i tried to write this guy but it seens he's not on this site no more


http://www.oxfordtaichi.com/video_footage.0.html

check out the bottom two clips for some examples of tai chi against punches and kicks as well as some competition footage.
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Re: Taijiquan vs Punching and Kicking

Postby blacksheep on Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:51 am

[quote="cloudz"]

o.k. yes i seen that was o.k. but it looked more like a old kenpo move.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ilVJArpTa0

i copied this other guys video link from 2 pages back. he looks real i think.
but looks like he left the site
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Re: Taijiquan vs Punching and Kicking

Postby cloudz on Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:02 am

ahh.. I wanted to see those, but when i clicked them b4 they said "these are private".

Well.. I'm really not sure what the form was to be honest. looks like he does a mix of stuff and looks like he's having fun at least.. Not my cup of tea really.

A lot of "moves" in ma's are very similar - indeed.
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Re: Taijiquan vs Punching and Kicking

Postby blacksheep on Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:08 am

cloudz wrote:ahh.. I wanted to see those, but when i clicked them b4 they said "these are private".

Well.. I'm really not sure what the form was to be honest. looks like he does a mix of stuff and looks like he's having fun at least.. Not my cup of tea really.

A lot of "moves" in ma's are very similar - indeed.


there was a couple other vid's on that site as well ,looks likes he's a fighter,but with some strange things i never seen before
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Re: Taijiquan vs Punching and Kicking

Postby Dmitri on Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:12 am

blacksheep wrote:interesting could you provide me with a link to youtube of someone who you think is not watered down?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... mHBA&hl=en
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf0DNMElas8
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Re: Taijiquan vs Punching and Kicking

Postby blacksheep on Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:17 am

Dmitri wrote:
blacksheep wrote:interesting could you provide me with a link to youtube of someone who you think is not watered down?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... mHBA&hl=en
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf0DNMElas8


that was very interesting.

that guy just flys off,wow.
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Re: Taijiquan vs Punching and Kicking

Postby blacksheep on Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:56 am

cloudz wrote:ahh.. I wanted to see those, but when i clicked them b4 they said "these are private".

Well.. I'm really not sure what the form was to be honest. looks like he does a mix of stuff and looks like he's having fun at least.. Not my cup of tea really.

A lot of "moves" in ma's are very similar - indeed.


yes i think that was an original buddhist system being taught by quan pecheng.

it wasn't perfect but it was pretty good,buddhist for sure. i can see it you know,who has it and who don't.

at least from that point of view.
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Re: Taijiquan vs Punching and Kicking

Postby Chris McKinley on Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:57 am

Welcome back, WILLIE. ;)
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Re: Taijiquan vs Punching and Kicking

Postby Josealb on Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:58 pm

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Re: Taijiquan vs Punching and Kicking

Postby nianfong on Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:10 pm

yup, that was willie alright. seems ashe's ban wasn't on the IP. direct IP match. willie, if you want back on, contact an admin.
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Re: Taijiquan vs Punching and Kicking

Postby Interloper on Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:03 pm

blacksheep wrote:
Dmitri wrote:
blacksheep wrote:it seems the kung fu school down the street don't seem to be very impressed with taiji

That's probably because 95% of taiji out there is watered-down BS taught by people who don't understand the art themselves.


interesting could you provide me with a link to youtube of someone who you think is not watered down?


Willie,
Liu Cheng-De's taiji is NotWateredDown.com:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zZDtCZV ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zZDtCZV ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEll31fq ... re=related
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