Ian wrote:Darth Rock&Roll wrote:Don't think. It slows you down in a situation where you should be 'doing'.
reaction has its place in an actually event (e.g. when you get blindsided or when someone makes a sudden, threatening movement)....
...there's also usually a very clear escalation phase. this is the phase I'm talking about ("psychological preparation for violence").
I don't see how you can get away with "not thinking".
IME this phase requires you to be mentally sharp and on your toes.
besides, the internal dialogue I'm talking about is not a conscious thought, as I have already explained.
Darth Rock&Roll wrote:Ian wrote:Darth Rock&Roll wrote:Don't think. It slows you down in a situation where you should be 'doing'.
reaction has its place in an actually event (e.g. when you get blindsided or when someone makes a sudden, threatening movement)....
...there's also usually a very clear escalation phase. this is the phase I'm talking about ("psychological preparation for violence").
I don't see how you can get away with "not thinking".
IME this phase requires you to be mentally sharp and on your toes.
besides, the internal dialogue I'm talking about is not a conscious thought, as I have already explained.
when the cause occurs, the effect should follow. Prior to cause is void. Following cause is effect. Following effect is consequence.
If you are in an altercation, I agree, there are ways to de-escalate etc etc. But altercation is chest pounding and is not actual physical conflict. when physical conflict occurs, there is not much time to ruminate on anything, you simply must do and hopefully your tarining wasn't shyte and helps you to defend yourself.
If you are talking about the imminence of combat, say what does a soldier think before he jumps from his trench and starts killing, then there is plenty of material to be had on this from various military institutions.
TaoJoannes wrote:As soon as I sense that anything might possibly start to go down, I begin to relax and start thinking very clinically about angles and degrees of freedom and positioning myself to interrupt possible attacks, while trying to talk down the situation calmly and professionally with humor, assertiveness and non-threatening yet strong body language.
When anything actually occurs, I'm in the dead zone. Thought is an afterthought and things just happen. It isn't until afterwards that I can analyze what I did and why, and it is always in perfect clarity.
In that all, though, I don't hear words so much as see flows of energy and thought patterns that work themselves out in my own internal symbol-language. Words are too slow and inadequate, generally.
Formosa Neijia wrote:Ian wrote:I'm curious - what do you tell yourself, if anything, before a fight, either for real or in the ring? What's your thought process?
I'm going to highly suggest a book to you:
http://formosaneijia.com/2008/10/30/rev ... -violence/
It's about real violence and traditional martial arts training.
Dave C.
Chris McKinley wrote:Oh sthtop....you're stho sthilly.
If I didn't believe in the viability of neijia arts for real combat use, the pathetic way they are trained for that purpose by most of their practitioners would have long ago forced me to ditch 'em entirely, and I would have saved the damage to my reputation for continuing to defend them in professional combat training circles.
D_Glenn's onto something there....preventive capital punishment. Hang a peasant at random and whatnot. Gotta love the Machiavelli.
Chris McKinley wrote:RE: "I don't believe you can switch off your internal dialogue, but I may be wrong.". Yeah, you can (unless you're schizophrenic or dissociative), but you have to learn how and you have to practice. Mostly, it's just a matter of the fact that some people are more auditorially driven than others, and internal dialog, which everyone has a bit of, is usually more prevalent in those folks.
As to talking about the same thing, I'm not sure I see it. Then again, I just had dinner so maybe all the blood's in my stomach.
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