Sam Tam demonstrating form

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Sam Tam demonstrating form

Postby Taste of Death on Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:46 pm

Separate the qi from the movement

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zcTu_cgbxRI

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Re: Sam Tam demonstrating form

Postby richardman on Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:37 pm

Thank you ~_o
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Re: Sam Tam demonstrating form

Postby Bao on Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:03 am

Taste of Death wrote:Separate the qi from the movement


Have no idea how you could separate qi from movement...

...What he basically speaks about in the end is not about ciculation of qi, but about breath. He says that he can speak and show form at the same time, so the movement does not depend on a fixed breath pattern. I think he just means to breath naturally and to not force the breath. No need to mystify simple things.
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Re: Sam Tam demonstrating form

Postby chimerical tortoise on Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:47 am

That was beautiful form. Thank you!
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Re: Sam Tam demonstrating form

Postby wayne hansen on Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:37 am

Did you all miss the double weighting
Don't put power into the form let it naturally arise from the form
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Re: Sam Tam demonstrating form

Postby Taste of Death on Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:32 am

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Re: Sam Tam demonstrating form

Postby yeniseri on Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:28 am

The fellow is a wonderful human being but the form is terrible! This should not mean that anyone seeing value in intcannot see it as a reflection of what they are accustomed to, and what they are looking for! The form is too slow 8-) If an observant eye sees it as valuable, then it is ???
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Re: Sam Tam demonstrating form

Postby Taste of Death on Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:48 am

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Re: Sam Tam demonstrating form

Postby richardman on Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:49 am

So many experts ;D
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Re: Sam Tam demonstrating form

Postby slowEdie on Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:06 pm

Seriously, that's a very confusing little take on what was probably a great seminar....

"Separate the chi" ??
He's showing the form to beginners...from the beginning....prescribes sinking the chi at 26 sec 110 sec and 120 sec.....to correctly do the movement.....

Breath ?? Twice he prescribes an inspiration and expiration 37 sec ( "then you bounce the people away"!! )
and 2 min (push) ..."There's two breathing -unintelligible-"
He may be deadlier than a dynamite dildo....
But what the hell is he teaching???

Sure one can do the movements whilst talking or making shopping lists....
(knew a woman like that once, once) Is it good Tai chi....?? ..mindfull??

Nice form but his teaching is quite confusing.. just teaching the form to beginners?? not some advanced separating chi yadayada..?

Sifu Sam Chin has a clearer take on breathing, (and a thicker accent- so must be closer to the source)

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Re: Sam Tam demonstrating form

Postby Taste of Death on Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:16 pm

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Re: Sam Tam demonstrating form

Postby wayne hansen on Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:30 pm

You are right we are all clueless and Sam is a deadly man
He still double weights and doesn't know it
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Re: Sam Tam demonstrating form

Postby richardman on Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:30 pm

The signatures of the form is to teach Sinking the Qi and Shifting the Weight. Teachers take their students to see Sifu in these seminars. In this way, the students can see the Gold Standard.
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Re: Sam Tam demonstrating form

Postby Taste of Death on Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:43 pm

Bao wrote:
Taste of Death wrote:Separate the qi from the movement


Have no idea how you could separate qi from movement...

...What he basically speaks about in the end is not about ciculation of qi, but about breath. He says that he can speak and show form at the same time, so the movement does not depend on a fixed breath pattern. I think he just means to breath naturally and to not force the breath. No need to mystify simple things.


You can meditate or do martial arts. In meditation follow the breath. In martial arts follow the fist.
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Re: Sam Tam demonstrating form

Postby Taste of Death on Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:48 pm

wayne hansen wrote:You are right we are all clueless and Sam is a deadly man
He still double weights and doesn't know it


He is demonstrating a form at a seminar. There is no one touching him so the question of double or single weighted is irrelevant.

You touch him, Wayne. Then tell us what happened.
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