Some more from Wang Xiangzhai

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Re: Some more from Wang Xiangzhai

Postby windwalker on Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:50 am

"
Form is empty, emptiness is form." (śūnyatā).


From the heart Sutra, touches on
what is being talked about here.
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Re: Some more from Wang Xiangzhai

Postby Trick on Sat Dec 28, 2019 6:34 am

windwalker wrote:"
Form is empty, emptiness is form." (śūnyatā).


From the heart Sutra, touches on
what is being talked about here.

But WXZ’s writing is very clear for most to understand contrary to that short sutra quote.

Just the other day I came to think about M.Musashi’s ‘Gorin No sho’ which I have read ages ago but then couldn’t get my mind around(maybe because it was an Swedish translation? 8-) )
But now I read an English translation on the net and it feels right(maybe because I have ages of experience now 8-) ), the last and quite short ‘Void’ chapter is where to feel at home.
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Re: Some more from Wang Xiangzhai

Postby windwalker on Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:59 am

Trick wrote:
windwalker wrote:"
Form is empty, emptiness is form." (śūnyatā).


From the heart Sutra, touches on
what is being talked about here.

But WXZ’s writing is very clear for most to understand contrary to that short sutra quote.

Just the other day I came to think about M.Musashi’s ‘Gorin No sho’ which I have read ages ago but then couldn’t get my mind around(maybe because it was an Swedish translation? 8-) )
But now I read an English translation on the net and it feels right(maybe because I have ages of experience now 8-) ), the last and quite short ‘Void’ chapter is where to feel at home.


Kind of the point no ? Not understanding it one comes to a point of understanding.
Just as you did with the “gorin no sho”

There is a point for many who will say it’s not real clear, lacking the experience that brings clarity.
There are many ways to talk about “it”
What is agreement, based on?
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Re: Some more from Wang Xiangzhai

Postby GrahamB on Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:23 pm

Thirty spokes share the hub of a wheel;
yet it is its center that makes it useful.
You can mould clay into a vessel;
yet, it is its emptiness that makes it useful.
Cut doors and windows from the walls of a house;
but the ultimate use of the house
will depend on that part where nothing exists.

Therefore, something is shaped into what is;
but its usefulness comes from what is not.
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