(Tai Chi) Pushing Hands is not Fighting

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Re: (Tai Chi) Pushing Hands is not Fighting

Postby everything on Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:25 pm

"External" has "qi" and "qigong" too. Same with TCM in general. Without the worldview, vocabulary, and epistemology issues, perhaps once it was easier to explain what __insert your IMA of choice here __ is like, relative to other arts:

- student already had background in wrestling, other MA, etc. (as in the case of Yang Luchan or the original BGZ students)
- student already sparred in some way given above.
- student already knows what "qi" and qigong is like and doesn't have some modern "scientific" epistemological issues causing some kind of cognitive dissonance
- student might know some amount of TCM as well as some "Taoist practices"

It is incredibly easy for anyone to meet those first two assumptions. The latter are incredibly unlikely now. If you are a "tai chi teacher", you should be able to add value to anyone coming to you who meets those first 2 assumptions. You don't have to be Freddy Roach to Manny Pacquiao or Cus D'Amato to Mike Tyson, but if you can't add value (proven empirically, not theoretically) to people who meet those two assumptions, you probably need to rethink everything and not log on to RSF and tell this audience who probably meets all those assumptions and more that you know everything and we know nothing. <--- this is directed to no one in particular but is a general rant.
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