A 'synthesis' of internal arts?

[Appledog]

Hello, I'd like to maintain a 'cool post count' of 108 posts. This particular post has gone beyond that number and has therefore expired.

I'm sorry if you were looking for some old information but I'll do my best to answer you if you send me a DM with a question in it.

[Trick]

From an amateur martial artist...err no, I should present myself as an hobby MAist - good luck with you entrepreneurship

[Bao]

I'm about 6 months away from launching my progressive tai chi 'brand' -- it will be a new internal style based on tai chi.

Why?

[Appledog]

Hello, I'd like to maintain a 'cool post count' of 108 posts. This particular post has gone beyond that number and has therefore expired.

I'm sorry if you were looking for some old information but I'll do my best to answer you if you send me a DM with a question in it.

[Trick]

Yes a lot of things to ponder on in the forthcoming six months, time flies hurry hurry

[shawnsegler]

Is there any question at this point as to why ICMA is so disrespected in the world?

Hubris and illusion run rampant with nothing to check their disfunction, and the reasonable people with better things to do than deal with the sea of ego out there are the ones who pay the price for it.

The older I get, the more it makes me just want to open my veins in a hot bath in frustration...sometimes and not really...but sometimes.

S- Sigh....

[GrahamB]

Nihilism is not the answer. Go tidy your room Bucko - you owe it to Being to bear your suffering.

[willie]

As GMWHJ says, "THERE IS NO SHORT CUTS".
90 percent of the people who claim to be internal, aren't.
This is True internal power = qi + internal organs + dantian ovalization +/= powering the movements.

[suckinlhbf]

@ appledog

I use Shaolin Lohan kung for the beginner to open up all the joints and tendons of the whole body. It is a training set start from external to lead into internal. Correct posture is the key to get effective results. The body posture requirements are similar to the descriptions in Neigung Jing which was later adopted by Song's Xingyi.

[cloudz]

Wang Peisheng synthesised a form drawing from the three major CIMA as I recall

[wayne hansen]

And the delusion goes around and round
And the painted pony goes up and down

Has anyone here learnt a full system
All the answers are there and no parts are unnecessary

Anyone who thinks the weapons are there for ancient Warcraft just does not understand them
Shaolin has nothing to offer the internal
Ba tuan chin is so irrelevant to the internal arts I only teach to those who can't get the basics

Please go and learn
4 generations of martial arts and learning from Suns daughter and you have to make up your own system

Sun tai chi contains the other two arts not because they are obvious but because you cannot train the other two without them bleeding into the tai chi

[shawnsegler]

Nihilism is not the answer. Go tidy your room Bucko - you owe it to Being to bear your suffering.

In the words of Rust Cohle.."I tell myself I bear witness, and I obviously lack the constitution for suicide".



FWIW.

S

[shawnsegler]

Want Peisheng synthesised a form drawing from the three major CIMA as I recall

Yeah...that was Wang Peisheng though.

S

[suckinlhbf]

Shaolin has nothing to offer the internal
Ba tuan chin is so irrelevant to the internal arts I only teach to those who can't get the basics

Shaolin Temple offers a board syllabus, and their neigung training is very effective.

Ba Tuan Chin is funny. I know someone in China who has killed his opponent in the ring with his first and one punch in his fist match. After that, he never gets into the ring anymore. He is the most powerful guy I have ever known. A friend of mine who is a reputable national kungfu magazine journalist, traval across China has once mentioned to me that this guy's gungli is terribly strong. Several years back, a provincial national sanda team seeked his help on training, he trained them with Ba Tuan Chin. The whole team laughed and left. I guess his Ba Tuan Chin is different. He is too honest, and abosolutely has no business mind.

[LDShouler]

Thanks to everyone for their comments and ideas. As someone who used to teach English I'm rather interested in teaching methodology an the notion of meta approaches towards beginning learning (I'm experimenting on my twenty-odd students/mates!), and I realised that there is often a blurred area in defining individual internal arts. Its just that, in my limited opinion, there seems to be more overlap than difference between many arts (including those that are not normally defined as internal), and that maybe there is a way of teasing out those commonalities. After that the methods could be used to develop martial capacity or for general health benefits...that may almost sound like reinventing the wheel to some of you but such a methodology shouldn't be seen as a threat to traditional systems, more of a way of helping to teach. Anyway, I've really enjoyed the debate, and good luck Appledog with your endeavour!