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Basic Qiang Exercises

Postby Bob on Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:00 am

Private request for removal from discussion - so done - thanks for your latter comments
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Re: Basic Qiang Exercises

Postby Strange on Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:38 pm

I enjoyed that
Would like to know the application for No. 6
could elaborate please
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Re: Basic Qiang Exercises

Postby edededed on Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:56 pm

Great video! Interesting to compare with the bagua spear I learned...
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Re: Basic Qiang Exercises

Postby I-mon on Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:19 am

Very nice!
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Re: Basic Qiang Exercises

Postby wushutiger on Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:16 pm

Personally, I thought it was average...but hey, each to his own...
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Re: Basic Qiang Exercises

Postby I-mon on Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:03 pm

Hey man in these days of multi-page empty force threads we need to encourage any and all posts of actual training.
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Re: Basic Qiang Exercises

Postby Strange on Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:45 pm

wushutiger, try and be more open to the phallic symbolism of the weapon
not everyone one is equally endowed
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Re: Basic Qiang Exercises

Postby wushutiger on Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:59 pm

Hey man in these days of multi-page empty force threads we need to encourage any and all posts of actual training.


Very true :P
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Re: Basic Qiang Exercises

Postby klonk on Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:29 am

Strange wrote:I enjoyed that
Would like to know the application for No. 6
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Me too! But in case we do not get an answer from anyone who actually knows, I will offer my conjecture.

It is a maneuver to recover your spear if it gets stuck. Ribs and so forth. Upward leverage, rearward traction. Physics of the carrying pole.

I also have a humorous explanation, but these days everyone is so artificially sensitive to being triggered by imaginary offenses against cultural sensitivity, pretending outrage, that I hesitate to mention it.
I define internal martial art as unusual muscle recruitment and leave it at that. If my definition is incomplete, at least it is correct so far as it goes.
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Re: Basic Qiang Exercises

Postby edededed on Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:11 pm

I thought it was a maneuver to stab the spear out even further than usual (more range) - but since that ends up in a weak position (only one hand), to "save" into a defensive position, moving back.

I would love to hear your humorous explanation, klonk!

(At least I am not tethered to one of the arbitrarily set political parties' platforms, so no worries here!)
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Re: Basic Qiang Exercises

Postby Strange on Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:48 am

heh it's all plausible, till Bob tells us what it is
i just cannot understand the walk backwards with spear over the shoulder
...yeah and that empty arm move, that looks like a block :)
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Re: Basic Qiang Exercises

Postby edededed on Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:39 pm

Oh drat, why? :'(

Just when I wanted to watch it again...
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Re: Basic Qiang Exercises

Postby wayne hansen on Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:24 am

I feel an explanation is warranted
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Re: Basic Qiang Exercises

Postby Strange on Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:44 am

there is no need for that
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Re: Basic Qiang Exercises

Postby Bob on Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:47 am

Hopefully this might make up for the loss LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGNwUCdBWWM



In this video below the stances I am used to for these exercises, for training, are much lower and driven by the dan tian.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjrw2BKE5Lo

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