wiesiek wrote:Thank you Franklin,
My idea, that it is aimed for >internal iron hand< came from the "manual".
Friend of mine borrow the book for the couple days, so
as I remember the text:
.... Even when you trunk is full of the Qi ,you don`t have the power,
You have to send it and fulfill hands and legs .
On the end your hand became hard as the rock.,,
Would like to note , that I like the book,
`cause is thin in volume and heavy in meaning in the same time.
BTW, all serious writings - which I have chance to read, about the subject /internal "Oi training"/ begins with iron body exercises . Starting point is always - fulfiling DT/solar plexus area 1st.
i think the part where he writes about sending it the hand and legs is just talking about getting the complete Gong
having the full achievement
if you have practiced other things that fill the abdomen and the torso
its actually pretty easy to obtain this with the right training
I had one teacher that had a set of only a couple exercises
and if you did them everyday (only like 10 minutes)
after about 2 weeks you can start taking full power punches with no problem to your abdomen...
so this level of attainment is fairly easy
i think the author is just pointing out
that unless you can have the attainment all the way to the legs and arms
then its not really the full thing...
in my experience with some internal iron palm type training
it usually goes straight to sending the qi to the hands
and strengthening the hands...
now for it to work and the hands to get strong-
it internal body also has to be strong
but the emphasis right away is straight on the hand
the internal iron body stuff I have been exposed to
starts in the center
and works its way out to the limbs eventually
but the emphasis is on the center first and foremost...
glad you liked the book
(i thought it was a pretty cool little book)
on a side note -- i think its a little funny--
teachers now a days are secretive about stuff
or use that its all a secret -- to be very vague about things
either they don't want to give it out, or they don't really know it...
but if you read some old books like this one --
the authors just gives you lots of information
i don't know if its the same now
but about 15 years ago--
people used to be super secretive about their herbal formulas and iron palm formulas
but if you read some old books in chinese - there are lots of herbal formulas and iron palm formulas given out...
but at the same time i can understand some of the secrecy...
for instance some of my teachers would say-
don't fill the entire formula at the same shop
break it down into 4 or 5 parts
and fill each at a different shop... so no one can steal the formula...
I think in 2006 - in southern taiwan
i went to go and fill a formula in a shop
and i filled the entire formula...
and then some months later i went back
and the guy at the shop had a large jar on the counter of my formula that he was selling...
crazy world...