But you don’t need to really “sink” until you meet a pressure against you.
windwalker wrote:Dont really have a problem with terms like "sink the qi" not something I use in my practice...can understand
the use of it in others.
Bao wrote:windwalker wrote:Dont really have a problem with terms like "sink the qi" not something I use in my practice...can understand
the use of it in others.
I don't have any real problem with the words. It's about "why" and "when" teachers use this phrase. And if it's helpful or not.
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Ma Yueliang said: "It took 10 years to discover my Qi, 30 years to use it."
If a teacher who has practiced internal arts for only maybe 5 years or so says: "Now I sink the qi", then I will just laugh at him.
"What to actually do and what to don’t"
So what should you do? When you practice solo or with a partner, you need to have a very practical and realistic approach of what you are doing. Fooling and imagining yourself or someone else that you do things that you don’t do doesn’t help yourself and it doesn’t help your partner or student.
So that was what to not do. So again, what to actually do?
Well, to really circulate Qi as we mean to circulate Qi in neigong and in the Internal Martial Arts, as achieving full circulation through out the body, you need to first nurture the three Dantians and open the three gates.
What does this mean?
It means that without a calm, focused mind, without deep breath and without a heart without worries and anxiety, there is no real circulation. Forming those three aspects means a “perfect function of an indent in human body.” Then you will have Qi. You don’t need to think about Qi, just calm your mind and heart, relax internally and externally while you are still or moving and there will be Qi.
Further, to circulate the Qi throughout the whole body, you need to open the three gates, and briefly speaking, you need to open the joints as well as understand to become soft and movable in both the lower and upper back. Focusing on all of these aspects of mind, breath, heart and body while practicing, and keeping on practicing these aspects while help you to develop what you could feel as circulation. It will help you to build up heat while you are practicing and to make the feeling of circulation more intense. And you will never even once have to “think about qi”. Don’t.
probably using the same termanolgly as
they were taught with.....
Some other things like trying to feel your Dantian might help you to stabilize your own structure.
Bao wrote:A student wants to learn how to actually do something, not what the teacher believe is happening while he is already doing something. I don't have respect for any kind of teacher who just wants to look good in front of their students instead of teaching.
Really not an issue for me...There are many teachers I may not agree with. On line or those I see in the parks.
I always respect what they do and for the most part don't interact with them nor attempt to change their thinking...unless we are interacting.probably using the same termanolgly as
they were taught with.....
If a young, unexperienced person copy the terminology of an old, experienced teacher, or claim to have the same skills, well, there's something funny to laugh at again. again not an issue. People running schools, seminars, earning a living have to market their skill or lack of...
But I agree, being there and feeling it first hand is what is most important.
"earning a living have to market their skill or lack of..."
windwalker wrote:Not to belabor the pointSome other things like trying to feel your Dantian might help you to stabilize your own structure.
Dantian is just like qi..a type of jargon
both of which I don't use in my own practice but as mentioned
do understand the use of them in others.
GrahamB wrote:Er ok, so relax and that's all you need to do....
Bao wrote:"earning a living have to market their skill or lack of..."
Exactly.windwalker wrote:Not to belabor the pointSome other things like trying to feel your Dantian might help you to stabilize your own structure.
Dantian is just like qi..a type of jargon
both of which I don't use in my own practice but as mentioned
do understand the use of them in others.
Dantian is something you can feel, either you regard it as a spot inside your belly or the belly itself. Focusing on this has a very basic, practical function, i.e. understand how to keep your center. you see, we don't agree,,,not the topic at hand...If this works for you and others in their practice its good but for me its not really a good way to describe or instruct others to do...I would say first one has to understand what a center is. Once this is done they can learn to understand a center can be at any point, not something that one has to keep or maintain, its already there.
anyway I get it we have some different view points on this.....take careGrahamB wrote:Er ok, so relax and that's all you need to do....
Yeah, you got it.
"Qi" in neigong and IMA is more or less nothing else than the ability to keep certain very basic criteria. Mostly just about relaxing.
Next time someone tells me about how they feel qi, I'll just quote Judge Judy =
"I am not interested in your feelings".
"Qi" in neigong and IMA is more or less nothing else than the ability to keep certain very basic criteria. Mostly just about relaxing.
Next time someone tells me about how they feel qi, I'll just quote Judge Judy =
"I am not interested in your feelings".
GrahamB wrote:On the contrary, I think it's actually quite useful to "feel the qi". In fact, I did a whole video series showing people how to do it and why it's useful
you see, we don't agree,,,not the topic at hand...If this works for you and others in their practice its good but for me its not really a good way to describe or instruct others to do...I would say first one has to understand what a center is. Once this is done they can learn to understand a center can be at any point, not something that one has to keep or maintain, its already there.
anyway I get it we have some different view points on this.....take care
Bao wrote:So instead of teaching how to actually do something, teachers keep on speaking about an expression or function that happens when you already have everything in place and the "motor" is already running.
The Tai Chi world is really in deep need of better teachers.
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