MaartenSFS wrote:windwalker wrote:Mantis has a lot of trips and sweeps that are set up using a switching hand control. The timing is such that the other person doesn't understand that the hands have been switched. As with teacher Brendan Lai's demo it's a one count movement.
https://youtu.be/dA5-Q6wALTgThe link show some of the training we used to do in Korea long ago.
Exactly. It's not that easy to tell what's going on - especially if your opponent has never seen it before. I really liked what I saw in that video. That's how real trapping looks in action - without gloves on. When wearing gloves one's hands are slower, but so are theirs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb94tMqpn84&t=420sYour clip posted, reminds me of long arm,
but the foot work is very different.
Gloves are good for practicing and developing, allowing one to get hit,
and hit with out being damaged to much in the process.
Some of my students practicing with what we call “Tsang-Lu” 蒼 鷺
16oz gloves / short and long en-guard positions.
Based from hop gar/taiji/ doesn't use the same types of strategies as mentioned, like hop gar, it finds and exploits the empty spaces,
bypassing the others guard, many things practice go into making this work, and doable. In many aspects its similar to boxing.
Its been awhile since I've practiced n-mantis... never really adapted to it "inside".
maybe because my first CMA style was "tibetan white crane"
http://focusingemptiness.com/index.php/ ... WhiteCraneAs to why the switching hand strategy is not used in the UFC.
I would look at assumptions made, foot work, base styles, back ground of fighters,
and how the fighters put together their own unique fighting styles.
CMA places a lot of emphasis on the method, stressing the style over the person feeling
that the "style" or method used gives one the advantage.
Western combative sports such as UFC tend to place the emphasis on the fighter. Most of the tools sets they use are very similar
which is not really true for CMA styles if one compares them...
Many of threads here talk about the differences and those thought to be the best illustrative of them. The focus is different.
Quick fight street /self defense , vs long as in most combat sportive matches..different assumptions, different training.
Having practiced with teacher Brendan Lais, group long ago 7*... a lot things that appear to be done in multiple counts are actually felt and used
as 1 count. One practiced to the point of making it so. Mantis styles are somewhat unique in this aspect IMO....with accompanying theories and training methods to go with it.
In JW clip although it may seem like there would be time to react to it,
in real time it would be hard unless one was aware of these types of combos.