Kwan Um Do Kwang

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Kwan Um Do Kwang

Postby wiesiek on Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:40 am

Course of "Seon Gum Defense Dharma" according to the rules and regulations established by Kwan Um Do Kwang, was yesterday in Krakow.

It happened close to my place, and friend of mine, which day earlier sow demo of the system`s Head Master / Mark Forteen 8th grade black belt/ and his wife , gave me enthusiastic call -; I packed my swords and saddle the bike...
During 3 h seminar I`ve try to learn 10 basic forms :single moves deffence -attack , for dao/katana- sorry - forget Korean name of the sword.
Head Master Mark is from the San Francisco

`cause we have big board members crew from SF bay area, + I feel some connection with the deepest root of the system thru zen Master Soe san nim ,
hoppin` to get some more , even deep, from >inner circle< :) info .
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Re: Kwan Um Do Kwang

Postby wiesiek on Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:02 am

nobody yet?
ok,
my shot is old and very shallow,:
Chang Sik Kim /not quite sure if I remember his name well/ was send by Zen Master Soe San Nim for 100 days of meditation.
During this time, Kim get Enlightenment on the Way of Sword
and
"Sword of Zen" /temple style MA/ was re-born contemporary.

Hmmm, it sounds pretty >standard< , isn`t it?
but, it is quite contemporary story, after the II WW, anyway :)

Highest rank of this art was Zen Monk - Udong, unfortunately he passed away not long ago in the France, he urge Mark to find disciples of the art in Poland. Mark will support building Zen Temple in the Wisła /small mountains village , close to the Wisla river source /.
This is the reason of his visit and open teaching in Krakow couple days ago.
and
`cause of above I had pleasure to meet him and get taste of the art.

Hope, that board Members from the Bay area and maybe from the France? will add something... -bow-
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Re: Kwan Um Do Kwang

Postby Trick on Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:02 am

Are these forms done as Japanese Iaido and/or as Japanese sword(two person)Kata(form) ? Or are the forms more moving around as Chinese sword forms but with a Japanese style sword ?
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Re: Kwan Um Do Kwang

Postby wiesiek on Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:26 am

We used bokken, with modified grip/handle to add thickness/width in the "main grip" area -thumb/finger.
Handling the sword is in one hand, for all of the 10 "forms",
and
when in the "open position" , and handle is laying on the inner part of the forearm , end of it - shouldn`t block elbow joint in any direction. Both hands should be trained , of c.
One of them, is designed for >two person drill< , in the mind,
but
we didn`t try it as two p.s., yet. It was showed as the one person learning form.
Compare it to Japanese katana`s basic teaching - Kwan Um is little more complex from the start :
one "form" in most cases including - two sword moves and step, sometimes very deep.
No "movi`n around", so far
but
step a side and cut :).

To clear little beat >Temple Style< term-
Here, we have beginning each of the training set with:
-108 Buddhists bows and hearth sutra recitation,
rest is more "classic" - bare hand combat, six feet stick forms and sword of the Dharma of course.
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Re: Kwan Um Do Kwang

Postby wiesiek on Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:38 am

unfortunately unable to find anything on the net,
Zen teaching only.

Mark left all 10 forms filmed from different angles in local Zen Abbot hands for us to learn.
I try to put it here, or Utube, If it possible.
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Re: Kwan Um Do Kwang

Postby wiesiek on Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:05 am

Lads and Gents,
Polish branch of Kwan Um Do Kwang has been establish,
I was on the 1st, 2h training /Abbot has some background/,
and
shortly -I like it.
We trained:
left/right parry and upward blocks
horizontal hi/lo cuts and stabs , after short introduction,those are connected in two person set.
If
you add circular 180 degree slash with a jump, and 280 degree in the horse stance, you have the1st "Form of the system.
Sorry, I do not get permission to publish the video . It is for recognized students view only.
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Re: Kwan Um Do Kwang

Postby Greg J on Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:28 am

This website gives a nice overview of the history of Kwan Um Do Kwan. It appears that there are some active centers in the states.

http://zensword.org/index.html

I've always been interested in the relationship/ overlap between combat arts and personal and spiritual development. I'm looking forward to hearing more about your experience and practice of Kwan Um Do Kwang.

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Re: Kwan Um Do Kwang

Postby wiesiek on Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:00 am

thank you for the link, Greg
I have to correct teacher`s name from my initial post - FORTIN not Forteen,
sorry, I got a note written with the mistake.

Interesting could be - how the style found me:
There was kinda of strange coincidence ,
- flash backs of the hard core dream from my youth /sword fight/,;
- "Reluctant swordsmen" novel, which I know, but didn`t read it yet :) ;
- enthusiastic call from my friend about Marc Fortin and his wife swords demo
- invitation for the introduction of the style
and
- opening the school almost next to my door

couldn`t resist, out of the question... -rock-
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