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Re: what do think about master mizner

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:39 pm
by charlie_cambridge
Funny someone mentioned Adam being kicked out of Mark Rasmus' school: Adam also studied briefly with a student of Patrick Kelly's (in Australia/New Zealand) and was kicked out of that school for making stuff up. I didn't know anything about Mark Rasmus' school but completely believe that because I know for a fact it happened with Patrick's student.

Re: what do think about master mizner

PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:24 am
by Trick
“The nail that stick out gets hammered ” - Japanese saying, popular in many Dojos.

I’ve seen students who early on who seemed to have an “take charge” mentality with only their mouth as backup.
However from what I seen online(very little) on Mizner he seem to have something genuine going. He probably talented from early on and grasped and harnessed things quick. When ones Taiji becomes ones own one is free...Maybe his theacher told him he is free to go ?

Re: what do think about master mizner

PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:29 am
by Peacedog
Trick,

Ignoring all of Adam's other issues, I discourage people from studying with him as you won't learn anything.

He intentionally only teaches part of any given technique at his seminars in a way that makes it hard to replicate. Having spoken with people who recently attended his seminars, he has students wander around the seminar actively preventing others from taking notes about the training.

Mizner has some level of personal skill. You just aren't going to get anything from him.

Study with someone else.

Re: what do think about master mizner

PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:44 am
by Trick
Yes, I have no intention at all to seek instructions from him, I’m fine with what I’ve got here.....

Re: what do think about master mizner

PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:37 am
by Giles
Peacedog wrote:. Having spoken with people who recently attended his seminars, he has students wander around the seminar actively preventing others from taking notes about the training.


Now if this is true, I would love to know the justification they gave for doing that.

Re: what do think about master mizner

PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:15 am
by Peacedog
Giles,

IDK why. But it was mentioned by more than one person I talked to. Hermetics is a small club and people get around. Personally, I could understand a “no video” policy. You never know where video is going to wind up or how it will be used. But no note taking?

Even if I didn’t have a variety of reasons for not wanting people to give Adam money, that would be a show stopper for me.

Re: what do think about master mizner

PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:56 am
by Giles
Peacedog wrote: Personally, I could understand a “no video” policy. You never know where video is going to wind up or how it will be used. But no note taking?


My thought, too.